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I'm only hosting this mini blog spot here on FA, because the uptight folks over on dA would have kittens of me showing a picture of what the Anti-Gun fanatics would call a highly illegal destructive device.... Da fek?!?! It's an air pistol.. get over yourselves...
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Max asked if it would be okay to share this with everyone on my page because he doesn't have a FurAffinity, nor Tumblr, or any of that jazz and I told him it'd be no problem. ^ ^
To explain the title of this submission, Max only just realized today 2016 March 8, that he owns a classic and possible collectors item!
This is because while helping a good friend of his pick out a good pellet handgun for pest control online today that we've all learned this Crosman/Benjamin AirGuns model HB-17 has been discontinued, and is no longer in production, thus making the one Max has a modern Collectors Item.
Details of which can be read here on AirGuns of Arizona's blog spot.
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/bl.....n-pistols.html and this blog was posted just three years ago....
This very same air pistol, model HB-17 was the one that Max highly recommended for his friend because unlike so many other sporting arms made today, this one was made up mostly of durable yet expensive brass and bronze, with just a few quality steel bits to hold it all together. As such even without a generous coat of dense black enamel paint, this thing might outlast all of us... even if neglected.. and just look at this thing.. neglected it is NOT! XD
Anyway every search Max and Paul did online with Goog and Bing all came up dead ended, until Paul stumbled across the article linked above, regarding the discontinuation of Benjamin Airguns pistol models HB-17, HB-22, and EB-17 CO2 powered versions making Max Trip Balls!
It seemed like yesterday... Roughly speaking anywhere from 1998 thru 2000 when Max got this thing, and that frankly isn't very long ago.. what.. half a generation or such? Anyway yeah, a short time, and now come to find out Max has a collector's item all because the corporate bean counters (accountants) found profit margins were in the red for far too long, so parent company Crosman decided to give the HB and EB lines of these pistols the axe in favor of making cheap spring powered pistols and highly expensive per-charged pneumatics, the extremes on either end of the spectrum of pellet gun sales.
Longevity, durability and craftsmanship be damned... Sales matter above all else!... and so now anyone wanting a good quality sporting arm for a reasonable price that wasn't a piece of crap is shit out of luck...
Now the only thing left in the $70 to $90 US dollar range is Crosman's own 1377 pump pistol, which de facto has become the last remaining breed of pump guns to fill the void between cheap spring guns, and the expensive pre-charged models.
So Benjamin's Brass Blaster has now become a collector's item... who knew?
Just... Don't bother commenting below asking if Max would ever consider selling his Brass Blaster, because he made it painfully obvious he wouldn't with a very good impression of MLP's Big Macintosh - Nnnnope!
With this said... Here's a small bit of recently made quality Americana turned collector's item all because PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT matters above all else!
In Max's words~ "They don't make good shit for a good price like they used to..."
A crying shame that's all too true.
~~~
HB-17 in caliber .177 inch - 4.5mm by Crosman/Benjamin Airguns Corp.
Blog spot on FA by moi
NezumiYuki
I'm only hosting this mini blog spot here on FA, because the uptight folks over on dA would have kittens of me showing a picture of what the Anti-Gun fanatics would call a highly illegal destructive device.... Da fek?!?! It's an air pistol.. get over yourselves...
~~~~~~
Max asked if it would be okay to share this with everyone on my page because he doesn't have a FurAffinity, nor Tumblr, or any of that jazz and I told him it'd be no problem. ^ ^
To explain the title of this submission, Max only just realized today 2016 March 8, that he owns a classic and possible collectors item!
This is because while helping a good friend of his pick out a good pellet handgun for pest control online today that we've all learned this Crosman/Benjamin AirGuns model HB-17 has been discontinued, and is no longer in production, thus making the one Max has a modern Collectors Item.
Details of which can be read here on AirGuns of Arizona's blog spot.
https://www.airgunsofarizona.com/bl.....n-pistols.html and this blog was posted just three years ago....
This very same air pistol, model HB-17 was the one that Max highly recommended for his friend because unlike so many other sporting arms made today, this one was made up mostly of durable yet expensive brass and bronze, with just a few quality steel bits to hold it all together. As such even without a generous coat of dense black enamel paint, this thing might outlast all of us... even if neglected.. and just look at this thing.. neglected it is NOT! XD
Anyway every search Max and Paul did online with Goog and Bing all came up dead ended, until Paul stumbled across the article linked above, regarding the discontinuation of Benjamin Airguns pistol models HB-17, HB-22, and EB-17 CO2 powered versions making Max Trip Balls!
It seemed like yesterday... Roughly speaking anywhere from 1998 thru 2000 when Max got this thing, and that frankly isn't very long ago.. what.. half a generation or such? Anyway yeah, a short time, and now come to find out Max has a collector's item all because the corporate bean counters (accountants) found profit margins were in the red for far too long, so parent company Crosman decided to give the HB and EB lines of these pistols the axe in favor of making cheap spring powered pistols and highly expensive per-charged pneumatics, the extremes on either end of the spectrum of pellet gun sales.
Longevity, durability and craftsmanship be damned... Sales matter above all else!... and so now anyone wanting a good quality sporting arm for a reasonable price that wasn't a piece of crap is shit out of luck...
Now the only thing left in the $70 to $90 US dollar range is Crosman's own 1377 pump pistol, which de facto has become the last remaining breed of pump guns to fill the void between cheap spring guns, and the expensive pre-charged models.
So Benjamin's Brass Blaster has now become a collector's item... who knew?
Just... Don't bother commenting below asking if Max would ever consider selling his Brass Blaster, because he made it painfully obvious he wouldn't with a very good impression of MLP's Big Macintosh - Nnnnope!
With this said... Here's a small bit of recently made quality Americana turned collector's item all because PROFIT PROFIT PROFIT matters above all else!
In Max's words~ "They don't make good shit for a good price like they used to..."
A crying shame that's all too true.
~~~
HB-17 in caliber .177 inch - 4.5mm by Crosman/Benjamin Airguns Corp.
Blog spot on FA by moi
NezumiYuki
Category Photography / Miscellaneous
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My understanding from hubby is that the Daisy Powerline series was pretty good, even if Max is a Crosman/Benjamin guy, to hear that must mean they're pretty good. =D
Max was never a capsule shooter... He had bad experiences with what he calls "Leaky silver money suckers" because he says that if you didn't get the mini cylinder to seat well in the socket, in a day or two the pressure would be lost and you'd have to put in another one. Not the cheapest thing when you don't shoot often. And that's why he spent the 70 - 80 bucks to get this, his brass pump gun. No need for capsules, just pump, load and shoot!
Max was never a capsule shooter... He had bad experiences with what he calls "Leaky silver money suckers" because he says that if you didn't get the mini cylinder to seat well in the socket, in a day or two the pressure would be lost and you'd have to put in another one. Not the cheapest thing when you don't shoot often. And that's why he spent the 70 - 80 bucks to get this, his brass pump gun. No need for capsules, just pump, load and shoot!
Not all left wing people are pro gun control, honestly it's the one stance I'd disagree with, but nonetheless. Cute little pellet gun. Haven't seen one of those since I was a kid. Wonder if it's still around the home. plinking some cans again would probably be pretty fun.
If you still have it consider yourself fortunate because as of 2013, these things are out of production and are now considered collector's items. =D
Ah yes pardon, using a blanket term "Leftist Gorilla" is incorrect! I'll make a description edit right after this to correct that fau pas. ^^
Ah yes pardon, using a blanket term "Leftist Gorilla" is incorrect! I'll make a description edit right after this to correct that fau pas. ^^
*is desparately holding on to the planet*
Yep. They shut down the ORIGINAL factory to move to China for the sake of profit. I was deeply saddened, though most people felt by this time Oreo's tasted like chocolate cardboard, I guess they will now :(
Thankfully I love to bake my own cookies, at least I can enjoy them then. :( I would love to learn how to make homemade brownies though! I can bake a mean brownie :D Have one * adds ice cream* :D
Yep. They shut down the ORIGINAL factory to move to China for the sake of profit. I was deeply saddened, though most people felt by this time Oreo's tasted like chocolate cardboard, I guess they will now :(
Thankfully I love to bake my own cookies, at least I can enjoy them then. :( I would love to learn how to make homemade brownies though! I can bake a mean brownie :D Have one * adds ice cream* :D
The pump-thing (I have no idea what it's called) is hanging a bit loose now on ours. We got it back in either the late 80's or early 90's. We got it some time after I got my first Daisy 105B Cal.-4.5mm BB Air Rifle. That one was in the 80's, I remember that much. I think the newer models have the Buck logo on the stock, mine doesn't have that.
As for the other one, the pump action, and the grip were different, but the barrel and the sights look very similar. It might be different though, I haven't seen it in a while, and I can't remember where in the closet I put it.
As for the other one, the pump action, and the grip were different, but the barrel and the sights look very similar. It might be different though, I haven't seen it in a while, and I can't remember where in the closet I put it.
Ahhh we (hubby and I) think we might know which pistol you might have!
So 80's and 90's era, long pump handle and pistol grip... Sounds like you have one of Crosman's other rarities.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosm....._Kit_2289/2913
It was called the backpacker, or 1389/2289 and just like the more mass produced 1377 American Classic, it's a really good pistol. Like the 1377 and 1322, the backpacker came in either 4.5mm (.177) caliber or 5.5mm (0.22) calibers.
The only difference with the one you have and the modern equal seen in the link above, is the carbine shoulder stock optional extra, otherwise the guns are pretty similar.
The side mounted charging handle resembling a Mauser or Remington bolt action, was a recent changed done by Crosman in the early 2000's. The reason for Crosman changing the receiver from their earlier top slide
http://www.icollector.com/Crosman-M.....faux_i13668087
to the current version
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosm.....C77_Black/2502
was that the top slide sometimes failed to seat the bolt properly, allowing the charge air to escape around the O-ring and hurt the performance of the pistol. The newer solid single piece Mauser style of bolt with O-ring is far more reliable. Still the early top slide models are robust and can perform excellently if cared for, and if you have a top slide, then you really do have a collector's item! :D
So 80's and 90's era, long pump handle and pistol grip... Sounds like you have one of Crosman's other rarities.
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosm....._Kit_2289/2913
It was called the backpacker, or 1389/2289 and just like the more mass produced 1377 American Classic, it's a really good pistol. Like the 1377 and 1322, the backpacker came in either 4.5mm (.177) caliber or 5.5mm (0.22) calibers.
The only difference with the one you have and the modern equal seen in the link above, is the carbine shoulder stock optional extra, otherwise the guns are pretty similar.
The side mounted charging handle resembling a Mauser or Remington bolt action, was a recent changed done by Crosman in the early 2000's. The reason for Crosman changing the receiver from their earlier top slide
http://www.icollector.com/Crosman-M.....faux_i13668087
to the current version
http://www.pyramydair.com/s/m/Crosm.....C77_Black/2502
was that the top slide sometimes failed to seat the bolt properly, allowing the charge air to escape around the O-ring and hurt the performance of the pistol. The newer solid single piece Mauser style of bolt with O-ring is far more reliable. Still the early top slide models are robust and can perform excellently if cared for, and if you have a top slide, then you really do have a collector's item! :D
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