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I did it! I started and finished a ( good? ) comic with just 2 characters! ( or 3? Including the Leshy... hm... it was more of a spirit than a person... like... dunno... a plant or a sentient mushroom ) Sorry if the backstory about the war or their past was not clear but i wanted to focus on the characters more and i don't wanted them to talk about it so much or show some flashbacks, as i said: this is just a comic with 2 people, alone, with theyr feelings.
This was the first spin-off comic about The Connection ( coming soon ), the second one takes place approximately 20 years before The Connection story and it'll be about the wolves of the 5 clans, more precisely about the past of a secondary character that we'll see in The Connection! It'll be more porn than this one with not so much drama xD don't worry! eheh. A erotic story with sensei and pupils with so much bareback sex, cheatings and dom-sub / old-young characters! hehe, i really hope you'll love it ;) i will not release it for free ( i need money, and making comics takes all my free time at home so they'll help the production and make me wanna work faster and... why am i explaining why i want donations? Hng... it's because i'm an artist and this is a job! ok? >//_//< ) I will release it this summer!
The last spin-off will always be an erotic comic but with 2 characters that will appear in The Connection and... straight! Yeah, no gay sex. It'll be about a meeting between a she-elf and a big wolf! It'll take place few years before The Connection The she-elf was created by
Aron94 and... yep, i can say that this side-comic will be a way to say "thanks" to him for the help! And: no, i dunno when i will release it!
Thanks again guys! Hope you enjoyed it as much as i enjoyed drawing the pages!!! ;)
The end
I did it! I started and finished a ( good? ) comic with just 2 characters! ( or 3? Including the Leshy... hm... it was more of a spirit than a person... like... dunno... a plant or a sentient mushroom ) Sorry if the backstory about the war or their past was not clear but i wanted to focus on the characters more and i don't wanted them to talk about it so much or show some flashbacks, as i said: this is just a comic with 2 people, alone, with theyr feelings.
This was the first spin-off comic about The Connection ( coming soon ), the second one takes place approximately 20 years before The Connection story and it'll be about the wolves of the 5 clans, more precisely about the past of a secondary character that we'll see in The Connection! It'll be more porn than this one with not so much drama xD don't worry! eheh. A erotic story with sensei and pupils with so much bareback sex, cheatings and dom-sub / old-young characters! hehe, i really hope you'll love it ;) i will not release it for free ( i need money, and making comics takes all my free time at home so they'll help the production and make me wanna work faster and... why am i explaining why i want donations? Hng... it's because i'm an artist and this is a job! ok? >//_//< ) I will release it this summer!
The last spin-off will always be an erotic comic but with 2 characters that will appear in The Connection and... straight! Yeah, no gay sex. It'll be about a meeting between a she-elf and a big wolf! It'll take place few years before The Connection The she-elf was created by
Aron94 and... yep, i can say that this side-comic will be a way to say "thanks" to him for the help! And: no, i dunno when i will release it! Thanks again guys! Hope you enjoyed it as much as i enjoyed drawing the pages!!! ;)
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If I had to resume in one word this comic is ...............disappointing, because I really care about this characters, and the romance that they had. Sure it wasn’t perfect but at least was interesting (and erotic) to watch. But the fact, that everything end with a deus ex machina like that is a little bit frustrating. The fact that you decide to introduce a “villain” at the end is a little miss leading because the weather was already a force that they had to deal with, and also the fact that they belong to rival tribes make the reader more interesting in how they going to work together to overcome their situation.
I really like your work, I hope The Connection will be good, but honesty I don’t think I could read this comic again, maybe just fap to the sexy parts but not read it for the character building or for the world.
My recommendation for this comic: Just Fap No Read
I really like your work, I hope The Connection will be good, but honesty I don’t think I could read this comic again, maybe just fap to the sexy parts but not read it for the character building or for the world.
My recommendation for this comic: Just Fap No Read
Although I can kind of understand your disappointment, I think he did something most people wouldn't do precisely because others (like you for example) may label it as "deus ex machina". Of course, it all depends on the background and the kind of world they live in. If this kind of spirit is something "usual" (not necessarily easy to meet) in this world, for me this shouldn't be considered "deus ex machina".
What I mean is... Even if it looks like that, it serves the purpose of showing that, no matter what, your life could end at any moment in the most unexpected of ways and completely (or almost completely) out of the characters' control. I guess it would be something similar to a car suddenly running over an ill character in a film, when you (or even the character him/herself) would espect death to arrive because of that illness.
I don't think I've seen this happen in almost any story I've read so far, and it surelly generates a lot of conflicting emotions. It surelly "breaks" the "natural" pace the story has been following all the time, and it may make you think of some sort of "deus ex machina", but I honestly don't think that was (at least not completelly) the case here. This is just talking without knowing much about the background of the world where this story takes place. But after years of playing some different kinds of role-playing games in fantasty environments, I've seen a number of character die in similar ways, some of them even "stupid", all of a sudden and without anything pointing at the danger until the very last moment, and to me it didn't feel like "des ex machina" at all. Simply very bad luck. Which is certainly frustrating when the characters meeting their end are some you really love, but that's about it... Being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or under the wrong conditions...
With this I'm not trying to go against you opinion. I'm just sharing my thoughts of it. I'm sure more people must have felt something similar to you and knowing that will be very valuable for the artist, no doubt about it ;)
What I mean is... Even if it looks like that, it serves the purpose of showing that, no matter what, your life could end at any moment in the most unexpected of ways and completely (or almost completely) out of the characters' control. I guess it would be something similar to a car suddenly running over an ill character in a film, when you (or even the character him/herself) would espect death to arrive because of that illness.
I don't think I've seen this happen in almost any story I've read so far, and it surelly generates a lot of conflicting emotions. It surelly "breaks" the "natural" pace the story has been following all the time, and it may make you think of some sort of "deus ex machina", but I honestly don't think that was (at least not completelly) the case here. This is just talking without knowing much about the background of the world where this story takes place. But after years of playing some different kinds of role-playing games in fantasty environments, I've seen a number of character die in similar ways, some of them even "stupid", all of a sudden and without anything pointing at the danger until the very last moment, and to me it didn't feel like "des ex machina" at all. Simply very bad luck. Which is certainly frustrating when the characters meeting their end are some you really love, but that's about it... Being in the wrong place at the wrong time, or under the wrong conditions...
With this I'm not trying to go against you opinion. I'm just sharing my thoughts of it. I'm sure more people must have felt something similar to you and knowing that will be very valuable for the artist, no doubt about it ;)
First of all, thank for open up this discussion, I really like when someone express his/her opinion about a theme that I don’t know very much.
And you are right, is not a deus ex machina, but honestly I could find another word for “a twist that came out of nowhere”, and yes I didn’t understand the world but that was because It wasn’t never explained to me. Don’t get me wrong I get that there is a war and all the struggle but they never explain that this kind thing could happen. We never see other creatures, like this in the rest of the comic and I still believe that it could have ending with then dying but death by a creature that we didn´t know that even existed until just a few pages ago, I mean even if someone get kill by a car you know what a car is or where they are at the moment of the accident(in the street). Even if you get assault in the street, the person who does it have a motive at least, like money, we don’t see any reason for this creature to attack them. We don’t even get its mythology to get explained properly either. And before you say it yes its probably explained in The Connection, but still I fell a little cheated in this, this kind of tragic death only work for me when you have a set-up and a pay-off.
I don’t think he should have shown us the creature from the begging but at least show us that this kind of creatures exist. Tell histories about him in the fire, do zugum make a joke about it like “don’t let the Leshy eat you in your sleep” or something.
Again I DON’T HATE THIS COMIC, I ACTUALLY LIKE IT, but that doesn’t mean that I can find myself disappointed for a comic that promise (at least me) more that it offers.
And you are right, is not a deus ex machina, but honestly I could find another word for “a twist that came out of nowhere”, and yes I didn’t understand the world but that was because It wasn’t never explained to me. Don’t get me wrong I get that there is a war and all the struggle but they never explain that this kind thing could happen. We never see other creatures, like this in the rest of the comic and I still believe that it could have ending with then dying but death by a creature that we didn´t know that even existed until just a few pages ago, I mean even if someone get kill by a car you know what a car is or where they are at the moment of the accident(in the street). Even if you get assault in the street, the person who does it have a motive at least, like money, we don’t see any reason for this creature to attack them. We don’t even get its mythology to get explained properly either. And before you say it yes its probably explained in The Connection, but still I fell a little cheated in this, this kind of tragic death only work for me when you have a set-up and a pay-off.
I don’t think he should have shown us the creature from the begging but at least show us that this kind of creatures exist. Tell histories about him in the fire, do zugum make a joke about it like “don’t let the Leshy eat you in your sleep” or something.
Again I DON’T HATE THIS COMIC, I ACTUALLY LIKE IT, but that doesn’t mean that I can find myself disappointed for a comic that promise (at least me) more that it offers.
There really is a lot of connection building between the characters but it feels kind of sad that they ran into this obstacle. Maybe it could work if we knew sooner that this evil creature lurks around? Though I do recall the author mentioned feeling a bit tired so perhaps a break might have had this go in a different direction? We can only imagine.
Yeah, I completely get your point, and I agree with you in that it would have appeared more "natural" if we knew about the world the story is set in better. Then, as improbable as something like this had been (maybe it's actually not that strange, but we don't know for sure), noone would have "felt cheated" by this particular event.
On the other hand, I'm not particularly a fan of characters bringing certaing topics (like the existance of these creatures) into a conversation in a too obvious manner, since that would make the reader aware that something related to them is going to happen. In a comic where the relationship between both characters is developed, it would look kind of unnatural to suddenly have them talking about this kind of stuff, instead about the relationship between their tribes, for example.
I'm not even sure if they know what this spirit is or why he attacks what kind of victims (I think one of them knows that they exist at least, but I can't remember right now where this was hinted in the past pages). But let's assume they know of its existance, but they don't know their reason/s for attacking people. Then saying "stay away from this place" would only make sense when they identify its presence in a certain area. If they know why they attack people, then "try to not take any plants from now on" would also save them the trouble of having to fight it, but again they should know of its presence. Otherwise it may not make sense that they said anything at all.
I personally feel the safest way to not make "accidental spoilers" to the readers and simultaniously avoid them "feeling cheated" would have been to provide them with a background of the world as complete as possible and a more or less vague indication of the part of this world where the characters are. However, that would probably require too much work on his part, and as he himself mentioned his purpose with this comic was not to show us a lot about this world, but focusing on the two characters and their feelings, which is why I'm not really disappointed with the results.
That said, I agree with you in that having had a better knowledge about it would have been the cherry on top of he cake and would have prevented people from getting disappointed, probably
On the other hand, I'm not particularly a fan of characters bringing certaing topics (like the existance of these creatures) into a conversation in a too obvious manner, since that would make the reader aware that something related to them is going to happen. In a comic where the relationship between both characters is developed, it would look kind of unnatural to suddenly have them talking about this kind of stuff, instead about the relationship between their tribes, for example.
I'm not even sure if they know what this spirit is or why he attacks what kind of victims (I think one of them knows that they exist at least, but I can't remember right now where this was hinted in the past pages). But let's assume they know of its existance, but they don't know their reason/s for attacking people. Then saying "stay away from this place" would only make sense when they identify its presence in a certain area. If they know why they attack people, then "try to not take any plants from now on" would also save them the trouble of having to fight it, but again they should know of its presence. Otherwise it may not make sense that they said anything at all.
I personally feel the safest way to not make "accidental spoilers" to the readers and simultaniously avoid them "feeling cheated" would have been to provide them with a background of the world as complete as possible and a more or less vague indication of the part of this world where the characters are. However, that would probably require too much work on his part, and as he himself mentioned his purpose with this comic was not to show us a lot about this world, but focusing on the two characters and their feelings, which is why I'm not really disappointed with the results.
That said, I agree with you in that having had a better knowledge about it would have been the cherry on top of he cake and would have prevented people from getting disappointed, probably
You are right but I think you confuse spoiler with foreshadowing, spoiler is telling you directly what is going to happen in a story, commonly outside of the media that this story is presented, by the other hand foreshadowing is a way for the author to give you hints that something is going to happen without telling you directly. And that was my point I didn’t wanted to give everything spell out but a least hive some letters to let me form a word.
Two clans, both alike in dignity,
(In fair Levante, where Husky lays his scene,)
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where soldier’s blood makes soldier’s hands unclean.
From forth the fatal armies of these foes
A pair of star-cross’d lovers take their life;
Whose misadventur’d piteous overthrows
Doth, with their death, bury their inborn strife.
Never was a story of more woe,
Than this of Zugum and his Bruto.
(In fair Levante, where Husky lays his scene,)
From ancient grudge break to new mutiny,
Where soldier’s blood makes soldier’s hands unclean.
From forth the fatal armies of these foes
A pair of star-cross’d lovers take their life;
Whose misadventur’d piteous overthrows
Doth, with their death, bury their inborn strife.
Never was a story of more woe,
Than this of Zugum and his Bruto.
Well Zugum mean happy for what ever orc language is in this comic. He die with an smile on here face when Bruto said he love him. Fate is unpredictable especially for these two. Regardless if one die or both die in the end; The ending came out "happier" than it could have been. Nevertheless, great story. You get an A for not using Plot Armor.
è stato bellissimo dico sul serio, in confronto i fumetti sui super eroi sono fuffa.
mi piace il disegno, mi piace la storia (triste da "star male" ma bella)
mi piaciono le scene hot....
difetti...... troppo breve;
scherzi a parte è stato piuttosto lungo (non mi ero propio reso conto del nesso con i giorni, una bella chicca) e di difetti non capendone un c.... non riesco a vederne.
c'è stato solo un altro fumetto che mi ha tenuto incollatto e in attesa come questo e non parlo di manga o cose simili.
veramente bello ed emozionante complimenti, attendo di vedere il tuo prossimo lavoro in the connection.
mi piace il disegno, mi piace la storia (triste da "star male" ma bella)
mi piaciono le scene hot....
difetti...... troppo breve;
scherzi a parte è stato piuttosto lungo (non mi ero propio reso conto del nesso con i giorni, una bella chicca) e di difetti non capendone un c.... non riesco a vederne.
c'è stato solo un altro fumetto che mi ha tenuto incollatto e in attesa come questo e non parlo di manga o cose simili.
veramente bello ed emozionante complimenti, attendo di vedere il tuo prossimo lavoro in the connection.
Beh beh, un bel finale, mi piace (leeeeeeeggerissimamente ancora troppo veloce l'ultima parte, personalmente avrei impiegato ancora una pagina giusto per dare un addio piu completo, ma è solo un parere personale) nel suo complesso devo dire che mi è piaciuto, ci sono i drammi personali, l'evoluzione dei personaggi, una storia d'amore (ma non la solita puttanata assolutamente improbabile), l'azione, la lotta per la sopravvivenza, una morale, insomma tutti gli elementi necessari per una trama completa. Approvato!
Maybe in another timeline both survive using medicinal herbs in iventory. And making using of the essence and lore of the creature.... Both return to your people and tell the story ... The story gained fame and bards and poets rewrite the story "a little" to something more dramatic and profitable in taverns and becomes this becomes the "Legend"
Sorry the bad english
Sorry the bad english
Also speaking of she-elf in future story and your... that spirit\killing machine in this one.
http://artdoge.deviantart.com/art/A.....hema-594343638
Does this art related to all this? Accidentally found it next day you announced future story developing
http://artdoge.deviantart.com/art/A.....hema-594343638
Does this art related to all this? Accidentally found it next day you announced future story developing
Man I really enjoyed your comic!!!!!
I loved the characters, and hell... I'm extremely sad with this ending, as we say in spanish "sabes como tocar la fibra sensible!!" I don't know how to exactly translate that but it means something like, you know how to touch peoples feelings.
Hell.. How do english people say "conmover"? "commuovere" I believe you say in Italian.
The thing is that I really liked this comic!! I would even buy it at a store!! When I end college and find a job and stuff I'll gladly support you with pleasure!! Good job man!!
One last thing: BAD DOG husky!!! You killed them... poor Bruto, poor Zugum... :(
I loved the characters, and hell... I'm extremely sad with this ending, as we say in spanish "sabes como tocar la fibra sensible!!" I don't know how to exactly translate that but it means something like, you know how to touch peoples feelings.
Hell.. How do english people say "conmover"? "commuovere" I believe you say in Italian.
The thing is that I really liked this comic!! I would even buy it at a store!! When I end college and find a job and stuff I'll gladly support you with pleasure!! Good job man!!
One last thing: BAD DOG husky!!! You killed them... poor Bruto, poor Zugum... :(
I was already bracing myself for the emotions when you said that someone is gonna die. I don't know how long ago that was, but I kept that in mind as I read through. That still didn't prevent the feels from getting to me
I was kinda disappointed at the Leshy suddenly appearing at the last few parts, because their dying feels too forced. I expected that they would get caught up with the war again, and either be forced to fight each other, or just die from something like a flying arrow.
Still, sad endings don't mean bad endings. This is a really good story, I'm glad to have followed it from the start.
I was kinda disappointed at the Leshy suddenly appearing at the last few parts, because their dying feels too forced. I expected that they would get caught up with the war again, and either be forced to fight each other, or just die from something like a flying arrow.
Still, sad endings don't mean bad endings. This is a really good story, I'm glad to have followed it from the start.
This was a really well done story: sad, moving, funny, and the obligatory butt sex. But really, you put a lot of effort into developing this scenario and these characters so that we care about them. Very touching and tragic and sweet. Seriously, you should publish this! Via FurPlanet or some other publisher, it's too good to just exist in Cyberspace.
Thank you for this story.
Thank you for this story.
There's one major thing I learned from this. Honestly, all of the orcs and minotaurs were to blame for Zugum's and Bruto's deaths. They didn't get killed by a monster or arrows or swords; they got killed by hate. If there are any orcs or minotaurs alive, I hope they find Zugum and Bruto and realize what they've done.
The really sad thing is that no one will ever know about Bruto and Zugum. I was hoping one of them would survive and strive to mediate between orcs and tauren as an unofficial peace ambassador or advisor. Now, maybe years later, someone out hunting will find their intermingled bones and probably think they killed each other. No one will ever know they loved each other. No one will ever learn from their example.
Sadly that how it gonna be and war just going to continue on. For how long: year, decade, centuries , millennium. At a point, both race live in peace or an treaty is made, but doesn't necessary mean the relationship will get better or nearly both race is killed off or kill completely? There no living example to stop the war. Noting to blur the line and say " it doesn't have to be this way." That the reality of this story. So sad indeed.
And I can't get Bruto keep saying love you out of my head. Just knowing that those three word will not be heard in this war.
And I can't get Bruto keep saying love you out of my head. Just knowing that those three word will not be heard in this war.
they promised they would stay together until the snow melts, and even if they couldn't make 'til spring now their souls will be together in an ever lasting snow paradise.
I LOVED THIS SO MUCH, even if it had a bitter end. I think it made it more real. it was amusing to see how they started reluctantly cope with each other at the beginning, how hard it was for both to drop their defenses and started becoming friends and then lovers. it was all so endearing to see them becoming closer and more vulnerable.
please, keep writing and drawing stories like this, Husky!!
PS: it was surprinsing to see so many people here wishing for them to beget offspring XD
I LOVED THIS SO MUCH, even if it had a bitter end. I think it made it more real. it was amusing to see how they started reluctantly cope with each other at the beginning, how hard it was for both to drop their defenses and started becoming friends and then lovers. it was all so endearing to see them becoming closer and more vulnerable.
please, keep writing and drawing stories like this, Husky!!
PS: it was surprinsing to see so many people here wishing for them to beget offspring XD
Well, they said they would only saty together until the snow melted, and hten they would get back to their respective tribes and if they met again they would have to fight each other or die at the hands of the other's tribe (or kill them). So I guess dying together before the snow melts is in a way a happier ending, since both they paths have become one and the same, and they won't have to fight each other in the future.
Also, I wouldn't mind mind them having offsprings, but... not with each other, please. That would be too weird
Also, I wouldn't mind mind them having offsprings, but... not with each other, please. That would be too weird
Great way to end a story, even though some might disagree.
I like the fact that you decided to add a bitter-sweet ending to it. (Although the sudden appearance of the leshy was a bit off, nothing hinted to it even being there, that threw me off big time.) Killing Zugum and Bruto off made me feel some sorry, sad to see them go, but I knew they weren't going to survive forever, Meat isn't abundant. Loved that you made Bruto a vegan, most people turn minotaurs into pure carnivores, glad you took a different approach.
As for the connections, not sure if this is something I really want to put time into looking at, straight sex (Yes I'm one of those gays) is not something I'm interested in *cough*. Part of me also feels that this is going to end up looking like a manga, and straight soft core (sometimes hard core) porn is already found in. Why say the comic will feature bareback sex between master/student then go and say it's only straight sex. Really confusing ~.~
I like the fact that you decided to add a bitter-sweet ending to it. (Although the sudden appearance of the leshy was a bit off, nothing hinted to it even being there, that threw me off big time.) Killing Zugum and Bruto off made me feel some sorry, sad to see them go, but I knew they weren't going to survive forever, Meat isn't abundant. Loved that you made Bruto a vegan, most people turn minotaurs into pure carnivores, glad you took a different approach.
As for the connections, not sure if this is something I really want to put time into looking at, straight sex (Yes I'm one of those gays) is not something I'm interested in *cough*. Part of me also feels that this is going to end up looking like a manga, and straight soft core (sometimes hard core) porn is already found in. Why say the comic will feature bareback sex between master/student then go and say it's only straight sex. Really confusing ~.~
Wow... I just... don't know the right words but you deserve an applause. It's really well done, the characters and their relationship and whatnot. Still, I can't help but feel the ending is a bit... odd. I felt that the leshy's appearance was kinda out of the blue, but it works with the bittersweet ending nontheless.
Can't stop crying
Can't stop crying
Wonderful, wonderful work. Ah that ending. It was sad, yes - but you put so much feeling into the comic, and your technique is amazing. Your layout, character positioning, placement of panels, working in scenery... it was beautiful. Thank you very very much for sharing this with us.
I would have worded it differently, but I agree, it felt kinda cop-outy. The monster, despite being foreshadowed, still seems really out of place and cheap. There were plot threads dangling, like the fate of Bruto's family. It would have been very interesting to see them survive and then somehow deal with the reality of trying to continue their romance with their people still enemies. What solution would they find? If they died THEN as a consequence of their people's hate and prejudice, would they be martyrs of change? What if only ONE of them survived all of this and then became a stater of change many generations down the road?
Also, if they both died here without finding anyone but this monster, who even knew what happened to them to tell the story later on, in the same universe, in other comics? That's a pretty glaring narrative mistake.
Finally, and this one is more due to personal taste (maybe), I found it a bad decision to make yet another tragic gay love story. Seriously, the world is alredy pretty dark to many people, I don't think a, frankly, less-than-stellar sad ending adds anything to the public. Again, this last one is more personal opinion rather than technical criticism.
It's worth pointing out, though: Husky, I like your art, and I think you can do a lot better as far as storytelling goes. I hope you'll take my criticism in stride.
Also, if they both died here without finding anyone but this monster, who even knew what happened to them to tell the story later on, in the same universe, in other comics? That's a pretty glaring narrative mistake.
Finally, and this one is more due to personal taste (maybe), I found it a bad decision to make yet another tragic gay love story. Seriously, the world is alredy pretty dark to many people, I don't think a, frankly, less-than-stellar sad ending adds anything to the public. Again, this last one is more personal opinion rather than technical criticism.
It's worth pointing out, though: Husky, I like your art, and I think you can do a lot better as far as storytelling goes. I hope you'll take my criticism in stride.
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