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FURSUIT REVIEW FORMYour Username
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/sugahmonstah
Item Being Reviewed
Character name, type of commission, etc. This will be used to help title the submission on FursuitReview
Langurhali Partial Fursuit
Name of Maker and Links
http://www.furaffinity.net/user/demoniccompendium
https://twitter.com/Daskerlizard
https://twitter.com/daskdoodles
Are you reviewing a friend?
No
Do you have any prior experience with fursuits?
Yes.
I own a suit that was made by ritzbitz/frostcat-studio's
I've also worn my friends fursuits at local meets.
Character Concept Art
http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10895844/ - FA
https://www.dropbox.com/s/b9pl7rezz.....esign.png?dl=0 - Dropbox
Photos of Completed Product
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ldjefnhmu....._0094.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/jnqcm8wx6....._0102.JPG?dl=0
Date Commissioned or Bought
May 2013
Date Completed or Shipped
February 2015
Price Paid
$809.69 = £557.18 GBP
Date of Review
1/24/2016
Do you currently still own the item(s) you're reviewing?
No
Price Sold For
If you have sold the suit/parts since this review, how much did you sell for? Put N/A if not sold or leave blank if you decline to say.
Full Refund of $809.69
Did the maker meet your deadline?
No.
There were two major deadlines given and was missed. The ones set after were missed until February 2015.
Did you tell the maker about any issues you had?
Yes.
How many hours have you worn/used the item(s) you're reviewing?
Give your best estimate.
Best Estimate was 2 Hours tops
FURSUIT HEAD
The following questions ask you to explain how satisfied you are with each feature of the head of the fursuit. If you are reviewing only a set of ears, your answers would also go in this section.Wear Satisfaction
Please describe how it is to wear this piece of your fursuit.
Are you satisfied with how it fits you? How is the ventilation? How is the vision?
Are you satisfied with how it fits you?
The head fit a bit too snug for me due to natural hair and that was understandable. The head did stab me in the side of the head due to the glue used to hold the hinges of the resin base together. The jaws of the suit digged into my jaw as well due to it being uneven with the hinge popped.
How is the ventilation?
When I first got the suit and did the fursuit review, there was dusk left in the head that I breathed in. It wasn't too bad, and the ventilation was good when you could get the mouth open. It was rather hard to pop the mouth open, thus why the jaws dug into my chin to be able to give me air.
How is the vision?
Very well done vision. I did not have to worry too much about blind spots.
Appearance Satisfaction
Please describe how satisfied you are with how your fursuit piece looks from the outside.
How is the symmetry? Is the shaving even? How does the fur feel and look? How satisfied are you with the overall expression and appearance of the head? Does it match the concept art?
How is the symmetry?
It was about decent for the most part. It's not noticeable unless you are looking for it to be wrong.
Is the shaving even?
Yes, for the most part.
How does the fur feel and look?
The fur felt really good, so no complaints in that.
How satisfied are you with the expression and overall appearance of the head?
Not pleased. I had originally commissioned this maker to make the suit a "Scary suit" due to the species and it being the suit that I was to wear around Halloween/scare activities. They had made a headbase previously for another maker that was near a monster look/feel, and when given a head that wasn't really monster looking, it was not to my satisfaction.
Does it match the concept art?
Yes and no. Due to many issues that the maker had suddenly come up on a lot, many aspects of the suit are incomplete.
Some key features missed was the ear clipped area's, nose slits, eyes, mouth and horns. The top pair of horns and the smaller pair of horns near the ear.
Special Attachments and Features
Please describe how satisfied you are with any extra features your head has.
What are they and how do they work? How easy are they to wear? How is the quality?
Where do I begin.
Horn - Due to this maker not wanting to use horns that I was willing to pay for to be sent to them, they had wanted to use horns that were not even apart of the species genetic makeup for the suit. I, at the time when asked about it, did not care about them as much any more being used because of the excuses given why the ones I had wanted for the horns (which were available here in the US, could have been sent and been the exact ones needed) were not good enough / to not be used. So, my suit head's horns were the wrong type.
"Resin" eyes - According to Dasker, the eyes were messed up in the process of getting ready for my suit. So, with the ones received on the suit head, they looked like they were covered in white out and used a barely useable sharpie on it to make the slots of my characters eyes. The character is blind, and the white-out eyes made it looked rather unprofessional and really rushed/not cared about in the detail.
Wired Tentacles - They were somewhat okay in the aspect due to them being really fluffy at the end instead of smoothed down.
Resin Base / Jawset - So, I had paid for this resin base to be sent to the maker to use. When I received the suit, the maker then tells me that with the issues I had with the suit was based on a basically faulty base from a maker they only ordered their supplies from (headbases, claws, etc). They did not inform me about any of that, so my head was basically a defective/messed up partial anyway before I even got it. There should have been a warning that possibly a replacement might have needed to be made or something, but was not.
Fleece Tongue - Again, one of those things where I could have ordered from makers I knew for my supplies, but they didn't want to use it. When it came to working on my suit, they didn't have the kind of tongue I wanted/needed for the character, so had to just get what they had.
HANDS AND FEET
The following questions ask you to explain how satisfied you are with each feature of the hands and feet of the fursuit.Wear Satisfaction
Please describe how it is to wear these pieces of your fursuit.
How satisfied are you with how the hands and feet fit? How is the quality and durability? What is the interior like?
How satisfied are you with how the hands and feet fit?
These were comfortable to wear and allowed for comfortable movement. As for the showing, yes, due to it being a partial.
How is the quality and durability?
With the hands, there were some holes that were visible once I started to move/wiggle my fingers a bit more, but not something noticeable much.
Quality lacked a little in the hands, but the feet were about okay.
What is the interior like?
It was lined for the palm and fingers only. Past that, it was just straight fur. There were small fabric marks, but not something noticeable unless looking for it.
The shoe base was a slipper.
Appearance Satisfaction
Please describe how satisfied you are with how your fursuit pieces look from the outside.
How is the symmetry? Is the shaving even? How does the fur feel and look? How satisfied are you with the selection of colors and materials used?
How is the symmetry?
Not everything is going to be perfect, I understand that. One of the footpaws had a curved appearance with the claws, as did the hands with a thumb aspect too.
Is the shaving even?
It was a little off, but not anything major.
How does the fur feel and look?
Felt like fur and fleece. Nothing out of the ordinary with it.
How satisfied are you with the selection of colors and materials used?
They used fleece pawpads. I would have preferred to have silicone pawpads for my suits as I like them better, but again, with them not wanting to order parts from a supplier I could have done so, this was one of the things that was not available.
Special Attachments and Features
Please describe how satisfied you are with any extra features your hands or feet have. This includes UV reactivity, EL wire, uniquely placed squeakers or padding, or any special articulation.
This can also include special ways of attachment to the bodysuit if they were not described elsewhere, such as: special hands with holes, magnet attachment, etc.
What are the features and how do they work? How easy are they to wear? How is the quality?
There were not any special attachments or features to these parts.
TAILS
The following questions ask you to explain how satisfied you are with each feature of the tail(s) of the fursuit.Wear Satisfaction
Please describe how it is to wear these pieces of your fursuit.
How satisfied are you with how the tail(s) fit? How is the quality and durability?
How satisfied are you with how the tail(s) fit?
It was comfortable to wear and didn't have any fitting issues.
How is the quality and durability?
Due to me not wearing the tail much, I would say that it's decent for the out of the box useage.
Appearance Satisfaction
Please describe how satisfied you are with how your fursuit pieces look from the outside.
How is the symmetry? Is the shaving even? How does the fur feel and look? How satisfied are you with the selection of colors and materials used?
How is the symmetry?
It's seemingly symmetric with each part. Again, unless you are looking for a mistake, it's not noticeable.
Is the shaving even?
No shaving was necessary.
How does the fur feel and look?
The fur/fleece felt fine. There wasn't any issues with that.
How satisfied are you with the selection of colors and materials used?
I was kind of disappointed with the fleece used for the scales as they were suppose to be used with the same materials on the facial lower eye part as the top of the tail.
The fur used for the tail was fine, but I would have been a bit more okay if the fur length was a bit longer like the sheet's reference.
Special Attachments and Features
Please describe how satisfied you are with any extra features your tail(s) have. This includes UV reactivity, EL wire, uniquely placed squeakers or padding, special articulation, or anything else unique if it wasn't covered previously.
What are the features and how do they work? How easy are they to wear or use? How is the quality?
There was not any special features to the tail.
The quality of the tail was decent.
OVERALL VISUAL SATISFACTION
The following questions ask how satisfied you are with the overall visual aspects associated with the fursuit.How satisfied are you with how closely the suit matches the concept art?
If there was no concept art, please state N/A
Not very satisfied.
I personally felt that the concept art was not hard to do and follow.
How satisfied are you with how well everything fits together and matches up?
Do you markings match up at the seams? Are the colors consistent?
The markings kind of match up and the color constancy was alright.
MAKER INTERACTION AND COMMISSION PROCESS
The following questions ask how satisfied you are with all the aspects of communication between you and the maker.How satisfied are you with how easy it was to initially contact the maker for a quote?
Rather satisfied. I had ended up taking a spot from someone else to get the suit, so they were rather communicative with me towards the beginning.
How satisfied are you with the response time from the maker?
How long did it take them to respond?
At first, I was okay with them as stated above.
Then when they had stopped responding on FA, they had said something about their email issues and more problems followed them one after another. I found/contacted them on twitter and communication started slightly.
Then as time went on, their communication got scare. Sometimes it was months before they had contacted me again.
How satisfied are you with the level of professionalism and friendliness of the maker?
Were they pleasant to work with?
I was not very pleased with the professionalism towards the end with the maker. Most of the issues that they maker had would have been easy to solve and resolve with issues if communicated more, updated, and such.
They were initially friendly, but towards the end and with this issue being a rather large problem the maker did not seem to want to take a lot of responsibility for, it became to where it felt rather problematic with them.
How satisfied are you with how the deadline was met for completion of your project?
Were any deadlines missed or was it done early?
Not pleased at all.
The suit was commissioned in Spring 2013, and paid off in the winter of that same year.
They had missed the date of the first con, then missed the second date of Halloween in 2014. They missed the next deadline of the second con, and they ended up taking 2 years to make one suit.
I did not get my suit til February 2015, so I rather rather upset with me first purchasing experience of a fursuit after getting positive reviews from a local friend of mine that has purchased from the same maker.
How satisfied are you with the overall quality of your project?
Not satisfied with how much time it took to get my suit. Rather disappointed really considering how many customers were completed before mine and in a much better quality.
How satisfied are you with the overall customer service with the maker?
Not very satisfied.
I did not get many W.I.P's from them, as they said they would, and when my suit was put together, it just turned out to be a rather big disappointment to me.
Describe your experience. What were the pros and cons of working with this maker? And any final comments?
Pro's -
They gave me back all of my money for the suit, even the initial deposit.
Had a good initial experience with this being my first suit commission.
Con's -
Do not commission them for things that are realistic / monster-like. Their best style would be toony, so if you want that, get it. Otherwise, go to another maker.
They do not work with other makers of fursuit supplies unless it's a certain maker. Be prepared to pay a bit for things if you are wanting resin parts used by them.
Anything that has to be cast to use, do not let them work on. Just save yourself time and let them do hand sewn stuff.
If you want more rapid responses, please contact them on Twitter. Their FA is dead, and getting e-mails from them is rather yay or neigh depending on their side.
If you have a deadline and it has nothing to do with Europe con's, do not get your suit done by them, even with deadline promises. You are better off waiting for someone else to open or asking around.
Commission yourself a reference sheet that shows exact details of the suits. Otherwise, you will have a large amount of room for error and the maker will have issues with this. Please make sure you are strictly explicit on that sheet what is there and how it is.
FINAL SCORE
Please pick a score that you feel honestly reflects your commissioning experience as a whole, including the quality of your item(s), the appearance, and how you were treated by the maker.✘ Negative
✔ Positive = The reviewer would recommend this maker to another
🆗 Neutral = The reviewer may or may not recommend this maker, depending on certain circumstances (reviewer clarifies what these are)
✘ Negative = The reviewer would not recommend this maker to another, unless the maker significantly changes their practices
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The issues with some of this, like the maker refusing to work with items and just "going with what they had" just makes me cringe. Fursuits have ALWAYS been a custom piece of artwork for the customer to be able to romp around in THEIR character so for someone to say "Yeah so...I can't be arsed with ordering the item I actually NEED even though it's totally reasonable for me to ask for you to pay for any extra charges for any extra items (if they weren't previously requested), so I'm just gonna pull some random shit out of a closet and hope it works."
Like I'd hate to have to pay all that money for a character only to get it with pieces missing and changed around. At that point, it would've ceased to be MY character.
This just sounds like laziness and unprofessionalism for the maker's part. Just a little bit more effort and attention to detail could've made this detailed suit look amazing and could've DEFINTELY boosted their sales and their business, but the fact they essentially "gave up" when it came to pieces of the suit ruined it.
And the "not wanting to order parts" just seems like nonsense to me.
Why? If you cannot make the proper part for the costumer, why are you not ordering it so that your work reflects the character? Why not have the customer ship the items to you if you're uncomfortable with ordering so your work doesn't seem lazy and sub par and so that the customer is satisfied, especially if the customer is the one paying for everything? That makes zero sense. And only from one supplier doesn't make much sense to me, especially when you factor in the fact the customer is paying for everything.
I'm sorry you had this experience and I'm glad to hear you were able to get a refund as it really doesn't seem like the maker actually wanted to work on this, and from just this review I'd be wary of them working on any other suits. Just the amount of what appears to be laziness and just giving up is just a red flag for me. I don't think anyone wants to know someone they're going to be buying from just gives up. How would i know that wouldn't happen to me?
Like I'd hate to have to pay all that money for a character only to get it with pieces missing and changed around. At that point, it would've ceased to be MY character.
This just sounds like laziness and unprofessionalism for the maker's part. Just a little bit more effort and attention to detail could've made this detailed suit look amazing and could've DEFINTELY boosted their sales and their business, but the fact they essentially "gave up" when it came to pieces of the suit ruined it.
And the "not wanting to order parts" just seems like nonsense to me.
Why? If you cannot make the proper part for the costumer, why are you not ordering it so that your work reflects the character? Why not have the customer ship the items to you if you're uncomfortable with ordering so your work doesn't seem lazy and sub par and so that the customer is satisfied, especially if the customer is the one paying for everything? That makes zero sense. And only from one supplier doesn't make much sense to me, especially when you factor in the fact the customer is paying for everything.
I'm sorry you had this experience and I'm glad to hear you were able to get a refund as it really doesn't seem like the maker actually wanted to work on this, and from just this review I'd be wary of them working on any other suits. Just the amount of what appears to be laziness and just giving up is just a red flag for me. I don't think anyone wants to know someone they're going to be buying from just gives up. How would i know that wouldn't happen to me?
The issue was them having worked with the items from the company before and apparently not having a good experience with them the first few times before my initial commission. Odd thing is, they were the only ones I had ever heard from having this problem with this companies products. Where I live, I have many fursuit makers that actually trust, recommend, and speak highly about these fursuit suppliers, so I was really confused why they didn't like using them and instead, used a makers stuff that pretty much only made certain kinds of parts.
As said, I would not have minded buying from the selected supplier myself if it wasn't the issue that this maker didn't want to work with their products. Most of the ordeal would have actually been much more positive had they have done so.
As for this, it's why I suggested that if you buy from them, don't try to get realistic/semi realistic unless it's a premade really. Their best work is toony based stuff. As for it otherwise, your concerns are valid. It could happen to anyone, and with me waiting 2 years (rounded) on a suit that should have been a top priority once that 6 month mark hit, I would definitely suggest to look elsewhere at that point and talk to them about a possible refund if you are able to get it.
That, in itself, was a whole other can of worms.
As said, I would not have minded buying from the selected supplier myself if it wasn't the issue that this maker didn't want to work with their products. Most of the ordeal would have actually been much more positive had they have done so.
As for this, it's why I suggested that if you buy from them, don't try to get realistic/semi realistic unless it's a premade really. Their best work is toony based stuff. As for it otherwise, your concerns are valid. It could happen to anyone, and with me waiting 2 years (rounded) on a suit that should have been a top priority once that 6 month mark hit, I would definitely suggest to look elsewhere at that point and talk to them about a possible refund if you are able to get it.
That, in itself, was a whole other can of worms.
But the thing is, that could've EASILY been rectified. It wasn't as if they couldn't let you know "Hey, I've personally had issues with the company in question before, but if you'd like to pay for it to be ordered and shipped then I can take care of that!" Hell even if she didn't want to deal with any issues that arose from a faulty base or something, YOU could've had it shipped to you, checked it out, and dealt with any issues personally that may have popped up before shipping it to her.
Just the fact that it was shut down and then a wonky replacement was given without any attempt to maybe find that piece from the multitude of other base makers out there just screams laziness to me. It seems like "I don't want to deal with the trouble" more so than actively worried about the quality of a product they're about to give to a customer, because if that was the case, they wouldn't have failed to given you an adequate replacement for what they didn't want to work with.
But yes, this will definitely be a good way to see where someone should work with them, but the fact that I see the laziness here...it's not the style that I'm saying is the issue. It's the not semi realistic, or the toony or anything like that. It's the lack of attention to detail and lack of a drive to want to rectify an issue. It was just shrugged off and you were given whatever. That's what the issue is and I believe that could easily carry over into their toony fursuit work.
Just the fact that it was shut down and then a wonky replacement was given without any attempt to maybe find that piece from the multitude of other base makers out there just screams laziness to me. It seems like "I don't want to deal with the trouble" more so than actively worried about the quality of a product they're about to give to a customer, because if that was the case, they wouldn't have failed to given you an adequate replacement for what they didn't want to work with.
But yes, this will definitely be a good way to see where someone should work with them, but the fact that I see the laziness here...it's not the style that I'm saying is the issue. It's the not semi realistic, or the toony or anything like that. It's the lack of attention to detail and lack of a drive to want to rectify an issue. It was just shrugged off and you were given whatever. That's what the issue is and I believe that could easily carry over into their toony fursuit work.
I completely agree in that aspect with what you are saying. Trust me, I was thinking all of this initially when I had gotten the suit. I did an inbox in video on it to even speak about the until things from the out of the box situation. I had waited for so long due to these issues that I could not even enjoy much of wanting the suit anymore. That's why I just went and got another suit because dealing with them in this manner to get my own suit was rather disappointing.
I also said that with the style to mainly get it because they seemed to do a better job with the basics more than something like this. I agree. Their work effort for this kind of suit otherwise can translate over into the other style of suits and this situation can happen to someone else.
I also said that with the style to mainly get it because they seemed to do a better job with the basics more than something like this. I agree. Their work effort for this kind of suit otherwise can translate over into the other style of suits and this situation can happen to someone else.
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