Enough? When they (the Arabs) stop blowing up ice cream parlors, suicide bombing clubs and hiding amongst innocent women and children in the name of their so called 'war of freedom' then it shall be 'enough.'

You can mince cute impartial rhetoric to justify your own lack of convictions, but this puts a fucking bad taste in my mouth.

zeh milchamat tipshi me'uda

Both sides kill. Who is right when murder is your weapon?

what a crock of pompous self-righteous posturing!

it easy to be self righteous and an elitist pacifist when you have relative comfort in Kankakee or Juliette, Illinois. Go move your family to Sederot or Ashdod then come talk to me about peace and "what is right."

John Lennon said "give peace a chance" and look what it got him!

You blame the killers, I blame the cause. It's not self-righteous, nor posturing, I favor the death of the human race over the continuation of our petty wars.

hope you're in the mood to set an example

*hands you a razor blade* after you...

Ah ha ha ha, wow, classic response. -_- For the logical response... How would killing myself help end the human race, when I can do much better by living?

And for the other response: Ah ha ha ha ha, wow, classic response.... -_- Here's your diploma is stupid.

i see nothing logical in your response

you clearly stated

"i favor the destruction of the human race"

that sounds a tad fatalistic, and leads me to believe you;
1. favor anarchy and moral abolition
2. read a lot of William Godwin by simple default
3. are nothing more than a goofball who thinks tossing a couple words into some ABC-phrase soup medley makes him intelligent

thanks for the diploma! YAY! I R TEH SPECHUL! I CAN RIDE SHURT YLLW BUSS NAO!

Ah ha ha ha? what a wonderful retort in lieu of actual rebuttal!

The Logic: Be destroying myself I end only one human, where by living the potential for destruction is much greater. Or even the potential for saving, should that become the more favorable outcome, assuming senseless violence ends.

1. Fuck anarchy, we need more control. A lack of morals is what leads to this bullshit.
2. Who the fuck is that?
3. The pot calls the kettle what?

And again, the pot calls the kettle what? All your response was telling me to go kill myself.

Why are you arguing with someone elses opinion on the art or even the subject in this matter? It seems a bit like trolling to me. Zev stated what he thought on the matter and you seemingly wanted to start an argument, which of course ensued.

If you are going to argue, at least have a sound idea about what you are arguing about. You are swinging back and forth nigh as much as a pendulum. Destroy all humans, but not myself because I could destroy humans. A potential for saving, when "senseless violence" ends. You say you would rather see the end of the end of the human race, yet you codemn war, and then you talk about killing others yourself. Is that not warfare?

All this speak of death and murder, you sound as though you would prefer war than peace. "Fuck anarchy, we need more control"? Do you realize most warfare is caused because someone thinks they need to control someone else more?

Anyway, both of you are being silly. Zev, quit beating up other furs, and Jasiven work on your "theory" and bit before trying to defend your "view".

yes mother... v.v

-.-*

:P

Zev, please realize that Jasiven is stupid.

please don't take it personally

this whole middle eastern affair started THOUSANDS of years ago

Israel just wants to exist

and the terrorists don't want anyone outside of their TRIBE to exist
and their Mullahs (priests) say that it's PERFECTLY alright to kill anyone/everyone they want to

including each other

to get what they want... Allah's return to claim his "Chosen people"

this will only end when the terrorists STOP KILLING PEOPLE.

i.e. never.

Humans as they are, are flawed, they squander the gift, thus should they even have it?
Humans as they could be, are perfect, they celebrate the gift, thus they should have it.

By which I mean, if we throw our lives away in the pursuit of war, profit, and personal gain, do we deserve those lives?
Why not give our lives to the pursuit of progress, betterment, and altruism?

More medicine, more science, more charity! Lay down the weapons, take no arms even against the armed, simply ask them to lay theirs down as well, open your doors to your neighbor and his neighbor.

My "view" condemns the current while desiring the possible, that's all.

I see your point, but it would be unrealistic to expect anyone to take abuse from an enemy and not do smething about it.

"Pacifism to the point of allowing evil is in itself evil"
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Which is why I fault the first violence the most.

Good thought. It's sad but true that violence begets violence

I cry for humanity and condemn it, while praying for our potential.

your point is well made

Yeah, and that means that the Mormons win.

What exactly is this war about? Something stupid I'm sure...

Probably not gonna end like this, Israel has an army.

This war has gone on since nigh the beginning of time. You think that both sides fight, simply because they enjoy it? Do you not think they are tired of it? It's not as simple as "Let's just all get along and be buddies".

But Hamas has MORONS launching lethal nailbomb laced rockets instead of using funds to build much needed roads,schools,education centers,colleges and vital medical clinics to help Arab people in Gaza instaed of waging useless racism Jew hating wars against Israelies-who have more BRAINS and useful vital much needed SKILLS than all STUPID Arabs throughout the Middle East.
Yep,The Jews of Israel can win conventional decent conventional based battles and wars but Arabs only can win using dastardly cowardly CHICKENSHIT NAZI based terrorism.

I didn't know Isrealies were born with stars on their skulls...I must investigate...

an eye for an eye...till the whole world is blind!..sad!

people say they dont know the reason, well here it is plain and simple:
LAND
both sides believe that the land the other side is on rightfully belong to them and that the other side stole it from them. Thus they must fight for it.
And they are told this thru their holy text { im not sure ones they are named }
this is all the info i got so far and cuz i notice NO ONE ELSE SAID THIS.


Good pic El Kit

there can be no peace without a clear military victory

and the terrorists have to stop blowing people up... that might help a bit.

Israel just wants to exist in peace, and the terrorists don't want anyone outside of their TRIBE existing.

BUT! I have a solution

move Israel to New Jersey (were not using it for anything productive anyway) and use NUKES on every place that's Arab/muslim

it'd stop the war

(hey, I never said it was a GOOD idea... but then again, maybe it is...)

I vote that we call a 3 week eviction and then turn the whole area into a nuclear parking lot. Who ever makes it to the center in 300 years gets to claim it.

Both sides hate gays and furries.

And both sides have physically attacked people on the street for "being indecent whores."

I hope we get invaded by giant aliens in walking eggs. At least it'll stop the fighting.

Hah, an invasion of aliens would definitely refocus our sense of a "common enemy"... we really need that. Sadly, despite whatever position anyone holds, I don't think this will end well.. if only diplomacy was more than a dream with this situation.

Unfortunately, it seems that everytime the word "ceasefire" translates as "reload."

It isn't a petty tit for tat war. Israel is surrounded by countries that desire its complete destruction, it can't show the weakness of giving in to anything, let alone a few terrorists with the nerve to call part of Israel theirs.

HAMAS and their sponsors don't care about the people of Palestine, they just want Israel to look as bad as possible

THANK YOU. How else should a nation, ANY nation, beset and besieged on all sides react to those events and circumstances? Shit...if I were Israel's PM, I'd have ordered the nukes be dropped long ago. >.>

But there is still the point that Israel are being overly destructive

Perhaps. And perhaps force, sadly, is the only thing that Hamas seems to grasp to any real degree. 3:

As I said, Hamas don't care much for Palestine, just making Israel look bad. Israel should be trying to focus their efforts more, the greater the collateral damage they create, the less Hamas look like the terrorists

Unfortunately that also is a difficult one, as Hamas are using the Palestinian populace as platform for their rocket attacks, any retaliation immediately causes collateral.

They should be finding the smuggling routes and limiting Hamas's terrorism capacity to a greater extent, not just brawning in there. Hate is not a good driving force. They should think more about their strategy, put some brains to work, all things in moderation. Variety is the spice of life (that is so not the best use of that phrase)

A thorny issue, which can't be resolved any time soon...at least that's how I see it. :\

it'll end when the end of days comes and the return of jesus comes. yep. on the road on the eve od destruction.