This picture pretty much sums up my whole opinion on the outcome of the election... :(

Yep. Me too.

The only consolation is that because there is a majority government in the UK, the SNP cannot hold them to ransom no matter what.

Yep, it's not much though really :( Ah well... long five years ahead it would seem.

How wank that wil be. The rich get richher then NHS will crumble and the poor get poorer

That certainly seems to be the tory plan. The NHS will be a blow, for all it's faults (and there are many, mostly NOT due to it's staff) it's nice to know that currently if I get seriously injured it won't bankrupt me.

We're boned.

It certainly is.

Hope the ban stays put, guys. And sorry about how the election went there...here in the States I'm already dreading the potential outcome of next year's election.

Yeah. I always find elections intriguing (i'm into statistics and numbers) but to see the parties I support suffer badly is a bitter pill to swallow.

Agreed on the latter.

Considering how things have been for the last seven years, the results of future elections can only improve matters.

So that's what The Prodigy's "Nasty" video was about.

Yes :P

Well, I hope the Conservatives in your Country are reasonable enough not to upset 70% of their voters, especially with a luxury-activity like hunting for sport. This would put a imagine of the self-interested politian into the public eye and would result in very bad press.

I would hope so, but don't bet on it - they want to scrap the Human Rights Act too! >.<

They want to do what? =w=

You read that correctly. http://www.theguardian.com/politics.....man-rights-act

*sigh* It seems like no matter what the government is run by upper class twits.

Of course, the SNP is probably only against fox hunting because it's "English".

I don't know where the SNP stands TBH. My local MP is their deputy leader and I heard he would favour scrapping the ban. I don't think most of his colleagues are similarly inclined. As it happens, in the commons the SNP MPs tend to abstain from matters that don't affect Scotland, for better or for worse.

That just sucks, of all the reason to kils, sport should never be one...

Never.

Public opinion on fox hunting might change drastically if any foxes chomp on any more human children.

I remember the hysteria over the "Fox attacks twin babies" think in Stoke Newington in 2010. Incidentally the police didn't do forensics and the bite marks were too big to be a fox. The last time before that when a fox was reported to attack a child, the culprit later turned out to be a german shepherd dog.

The thing to remember is that the number of alleged fox attacks in the UK are very small. And the number of verified fox attacks are even smaller still - miniscule! It ignores the fact that people are far, FAR more at risk from being attacked by domestic dogs - and wasps. For every 1 fox attack there are around 5,000 dog attacks. I think that's something everyone has to remember.

Just crossbow some hunters, theyll get the message

Maybe they should bring back boar hunting.

With the traditional weapons and animals.

I say shotgun them XD

Not stealthy enough death is scarier when it's silent

Maybe that's why people seem more afraid of knives than guns.

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In the last decade hunting has continued unabated, the legislation is so badly written that it's meaningless, going out on horseback with dogs is perfectly legal, if the dogs just happen to stumble across and kill a fox then it's all just a terrible accident. Or the dogs track and a falcon or two kills the fox, or they use a shotgun.

In ten years there's been a hand full of convictions over this and dozens of cases acquitted or thrown out, the police don't care, successive governments haven't cared and good money gets thrown after bad.

As far as the ban itself I don't particularly care, hunting is no better or worse than shooting (both are much better than trapping, which is horrific even by hunting standards) and the UK has some much bigger issues with animal welfare and social issues coming up. For animals there's the conditions that the meat we eat are raised in (and what species is it, that whole thing hasn't just gone away) plus the Conservatives are resurrecting the Snoopers Charter, it wouldn't surprise me if this whole thing was a ploy to distract attention from that.

Banned or unbanned it changes nothing.
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Whew, that was a lot of spleen... Sorry Keen XD

I do see your point, but it is always good to have the law on our side.

And it's worth mentioning that while drink driving is a criminal offence, some people still choose to do it anyway. It's also against the law to break the speed limit - yet many people do it anyway - so are you suggesting we scrap speed limits too? Just something worth thinking about.

Ricky Gerveis is campaigning hard against this on social media, hopefully his voice is loud enough to sway some people away from this stupid "Sport"

He has a loud voice, and many other celebs do too. I love Ricky Gervais ^^. Brian May is one, and the late Sir Patrick Moore was too.

I Love this Vixen
The Hell with the Hunting

The free vote that Cameron pledged is a vote for MPs in the house of commons - so it won't be a public referendum; it'll be the choice of the MPs - and if they're pro hunting I know what they will do. :(

Need to hire the vixen from your animation to take these guys out :3

Yes XD

The Conservatives are back.

Apparently people's memories are short!

In Scotland I don't mind the Tories since they don't have a lot of power - but the main enemy there is the SNP and they're another matter. In England, obviously I don't like the Tories - yet many of the generla public vote for them.

Why are they so hot on wanting to hunt and kill foxes? There's no reason to. Because it's fun is not a reason.

They're selfish bastards basically.

Too right

You would think that he would learn from the past wouldn't you? But no, none of these politicians do.

Nope. This will probably make people realise that it was a good thing the LibDems were there to keep Cameron in check last time around.

Indeed, but sadly that was all they were good for.

As a suicidal fox, I for one welcome our murderous overlords and would like to remind them that as a member of the very species they are trying to eradicate, I can be useful in rounding up others to toil in their vulpine death camps! At least, that's what I WOULD be saying if I were an actual suicidal fox and not just some guy pretending to be one on the internet.

Haha lol :P

But seriously, I hope this ban stays in place. Seeing as how the UK is a series oh islands, it's not like foxes have someplace to migrate to to avoid hunters. Here in Southern California, we have the Island Fox which is endangered for pretty much this same reason. Not exactly from hunting, but still as an indirect result of human interference: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Island_fox

Cameron especially would like nothing more than to bring back hunting - after all, he's very pally with several Hunt masters, and has been seen out with them several times. But he would do well to remember that most of the public is against it - and that's without the message it sends to those who are most against it...

(Which is on the lines of: if you can't ban it legally, well...)

I just hope there are enough Tories who are prepared to support the ban!

There is a group called http://www.conservativesagainstfoxhunting.com which upholds the stance of the 70% of Tory supporters who support the ban. It also advocates anti-hunting Tory MPs such as Dominic Raab and Sir Roger Gale. I don't know how many of the MPs they have just now are pro or anti. I am not optimistic though - Labour is opposed to scrapping the ban but the Tories outnumber then by nearly 100 MPs. The LibDems are down to just 8 and the SNP will most likely abstain.

I think the only thing that could stop Cameron is that 70% of his voters support keeping the ban. Petitioning could help, but then that didn't stop Blair sending us to war in Iraq. If the ban is scrapped, it won't go unnoticed - Ricky Gervais will certainly see to that.

Have faith Keeny. As you say, 80 percent of the public are against the act, there's hopefully no way the tories can pass a repel without dealing with us :)

He will not get away with it. Ricky Gervais has already led the charge on Twitter against Cameron's plans - and the thought of Cameron repealing the hunting ban has outraged a lot of people. Should he scrap this ban, I'm pretty sure we'll become very determined to make life difficult for him and his stalwarts.

Shame this isn't going to a public referendum, it will be rejected so fast (even though it might cost an arm & a leg).

Which is why he's committing it to a free vote in the Commons instead. It sucks.

Ok let me get this straight as I don't know much on uk politics.

repeal the Hunting Act & the Scrapping the Human Act that should be decided by the public will be voted by the commons instead. Does the public have any say in these things?!? It's insane.

And just 2 days before, Alberta got rid of their Tory party after 44 years, I was so hopeful. Now Cameron's got a majority, he can do all the things that Cleggy wouldn't let him do (like ditch the HRA), just like the dictatorial manner of Harper after he got his Tory majority on this side of the water. I despair... not that my vote would have mattered; my erstwhile constituency made electoral history, and not in a good way.

Well, this is all a part of the march towards command-and-control. Reinstate all the upper-class privileges like foxhunting, repeal the HRA, bring in water cannons to smash peaceful protests... er, I mean, control violent riots... all the while invoking permanent austerity while sipping wine from his golden throne.

The Canadian Tories, the US Repugnicans, Bloody Cameron, they all seem determined to drag the West back to the 1950s. The wealthy and privileged (and supervisors) should be feared and respected! N****rs and f****ts and w***n... *cough* ...women should be too afraid to poke their heads up. Health care? Pay for it yourself! The environment? Not our fault! ...no no, I'm not going to get myself started...

I must confess though, the situation puts me in mind of a certain movie... -- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKvvOFIHs4k

I'm not sure I agree that winning an election "free and fair" is necessarily a measure of a government's legitimacy. The National Socialist Party won a free, fair election... then ruled Germany as a dictatorship! ...okay, that's an extreme example. But I definitely agree that FPTP is too easy a system to hijack. I don't know what a better, more "bullet-proof" system would be, and I suspect it would take a better mind than mine to find one, but I'd be willing to try a few!

Anyway, I only said the situation reminds me of the "V For Vendetta" speech. I wasn't advocating anything. I mean, don't you find there something terribly wrong with our various countries? Cruelty and injustice, intolerance and oppression, systems of cameras and conformity creeping in... I only said it reminded me of that.

I'll tell you one hopeful thing; we're still allowed to say so.

Fingers crossed for you.

Ty, for this Keeny! I'll definitely give it a like and a share on FB.

Thank you :)

Here in Virginia (particularly to the south), there is a blood sport called "fox penning" where wild foxes are trapped, thrown into an enclosed pen, and spectators pay to watch and bet on dogs released into the pen to rip the foxes to shreds. It's only been around since the 80's, and is nothing more than blood sport. Legislation has been introduced and passed, but the way it's written fox penning won't be gone for good until 2050. Very sad indeed :(

It is basically another form of dog fighting (which is exclusively a criminal activity), which itself was banned here during the 19th century. Disgusting.

Foxes were not meant to be hunted. Plain and simple.

story inspiration for the fall of London by foxes.

One day we will bring the tories down.

I'm more concerned about the SNP but we need a stronger Labour party, and a resurgent LibDems too.

Do you think if the SNP get their way with #IndyRef2 that the law (Protection of Wild Mammals Act 2002) might get overturned?

I say that but it doesn't help when you've got a royal family in Britain that talks about wildlife conservation then goes out shooting beautiful stags on the Balmoral estate.

Bunch of fucking hypocrites the lot of them.

I don't think the SNP will overturn the ban in scotland. They pledged to strengthen it but dropped their commitment to earlier this year. I think their support for the ban in England and Wales was tactical, to try and show up David Cameron.

I did some art for the Grampian Hunt Sabs logo years ago, just a quick one :) there are definitely more anti hunting Tories now than pro hunt ones, and I think Boris Johnson knows this ^^

Yes I know who Churchill was and his unsavoury qualities. He still played a major role in saving Europe from Nazi Germany. So I can understand why he is still held by some in high regard. Also; https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/.....tory-3r89gqd69

Keep it short and sweet. Happy new year ^^

I know. I know they're not sorry either. >.<