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That's funny. I am the opposite way. I used to use modplug tracker, and now I use FL.
Modplug is pretty cool, and I love how it shows the notes, but, it can only do sou many notes all at once. You of course probably won't use 16 notes at once, but, it's nice having that option. Plus FL has the VSTs, which most of those you can't use on modplug.
Having used both, with alot of practice, and determination, FL IS alot better to use (in my opinion), but, Modplug is free, and has a lot of nice features. Especially if you understand how to use them.
I fully recommend both.
Modplug is pretty cool, and I love how it shows the notes, but, it can only do sou many notes all at once. You of course probably won't use 16 notes at once, but, it's nice having that option. Plus FL has the VSTs, which most of those you can't use on modplug.
Having used both, with alot of practice, and determination, FL IS alot better to use (in my opinion), but, Modplug is free, and has a lot of nice features. Especially if you understand how to use them.
I fully recommend both.
well, modplug pretty much has unlimited everything now
open source version, OpenMPT, you can have like a billion channels and ridiculously long patterns, amongst other things such as VST and VSTi support
honestly the main thing that gets me for modplug are the interface and the extensive control over everything
it rocks my world
open source version, OpenMPT, you can have like a billion channels and ridiculously long patterns, amongst other things such as VST and VSTi support
honestly the main thing that gets me for modplug are the interface and the extensive control over everything
it rocks my world
I love this.
I cannot fathom how some people maintain that FL is a serious professional daw.
If you're just starting out then it's nice to learn concepts in because it is somewhat simple (although imo reason is defiantly better because you get the hardware experience and visual cues), but when you're still using it 5 years later with stock presets you quickly turned FL into Fisher Price My First DAW.
Even better are the people that do this and then prompt it like it's the best thing ever. You have no creativity. Stop posting, it's embarassing.
That said I still use FL in somethings, but for the most part I know how to get away from that FL sound. Pro-tip: When you're listening to something back you don't want to immediately tell what software/hardware it was created with.
I cannot fathom how some people maintain that FL is a serious professional daw.
If you're just starting out then it's nice to learn concepts in because it is somewhat simple (although imo reason is defiantly better because you get the hardware experience and visual cues), but when you're still using it 5 years later with stock presets you quickly turned FL into Fisher Price My First DAW.
Even better are the people that do this and then prompt it like it's the best thing ever. You have no creativity. Stop posting, it's embarassing.
That said I still use FL in somethings, but for the most part I know how to get away from that FL sound. Pro-tip: When you're listening to something back you don't want to immediately tell what software/hardware it was created with.
Agreed
There are some exceptions to the FL "generic" sound (see
lordmeatball for instance), but it's generally pretty much all tripe.
There are some exceptions to the FL "generic" sound (see
lordmeatball for instance), but it's generally pretty much all tripe. 
No "Give me Psy" song for you then :'< *sniffles*
lol, joke, but still. I agree that the stock sounds are shit and the built in synths are either crap (Fruity DX10) or difficult to pick up (Sytrus and Synthmaker), but they have improved over the years. Poizone and Toxic are great synths (sadly not exclusive to the app but they come with it.)
Anyone can say the same about any production package to be honest. Except reason, that just upright sucks. What kind of modern package doesn't even have VSTi support?
lol, joke, but still. I agree that the stock sounds are shit and the built in synths are either crap (Fruity DX10) or difficult to pick up (Sytrus and Synthmaker), but they have improved over the years. Poizone and Toxic are great synths (sadly not exclusive to the app but they come with it.)
Anyone can say the same about any production package to be honest. Except reason, that just upright sucks. What kind of modern package doesn't even have VSTi support?
Well, it depends how you use it. But as for the people who just throw in effects with video clips, that pisses me off.
I dunno though, with adobe you kind of have more control over the effects, like, you can create your own style rather than just using premade effects. But if you know how to use Vegas right you can always make those premade effects look like your own.
And I'm running a PC too :P
I dunno though, with adobe you kind of have more control over the effects, like, you can create your own style rather than just using premade effects. But if you know how to use Vegas right you can always make those premade effects look like your own.
And I'm running a PC too :P
Seconded, I despise FL. I got it for better drum samples because Beatcraft's samples or at least the kick and snare were terrible and it was like...ugh. Triplets were impossible to make and just...no. FL is evil. I just took the samples and used them in Beatcraft instead.
that's exactly the problem, in my opinion ;]
it allows too many people to jump in, since it offers a bit too much of a sandbox, complete with toys and everything. as far as i'm concerned, starting the user with 3xOSC and a sampler should be more than enough; if everybody were to hunt for their own plugins of choice and favorite samples, i'm sure the poor users would give up and the determined ones would continue on :]
it allows too many people to jump in, since it offers a bit too much of a sandbox, complete with toys and everything. as far as i'm concerned, starting the user with 3xOSC and a sampler should be more than enough; if everybody were to hunt for their own plugins of choice and favorite samples, i'm sure the poor users would give up and the determined ones would continue on :]
I totaly agree with you. I use FL and I'm pretty disappointed with the stuff I make. I try to avoid anything that's recognizable, but I end up overworking things to achieve originality. I usualy stick to the 3osx + sampler and basic effect components (reverb, eq, wave shaper ect.) but I know I'm not using FLS to it's full potential and it bugs me.
Despite the bad wrap it gets I stick with FL studio because you can automate all the knobs, and I like the little equation feature on attribute linking. I just can't shake the feeling that there is some fatal design flaw somewhere in the program. If this exist what would you say it is, besides the seductive easy fix presets.
Johnny Greenwood (of radiohead) programs his own DAWS because he feels the existing ones force you to make music in the way they were designed to. Is this a curse for FLS or just for all DAW's by nature?
please reply I respect your opinion
Despite the bad wrap it gets I stick with FL studio because you can automate all the knobs, and I like the little equation feature on attribute linking. I just can't shake the feeling that there is some fatal design flaw somewhere in the program. If this exist what would you say it is, besides the seductive easy fix presets.
Johnny Greenwood (of radiohead) programs his own DAWS because he feels the existing ones force you to make music in the way they were designed to. Is this a curse for FLS or just for all DAW's by nature?
please reply I respect your opinion
I hardly think all workstations force you to compose any certain way. I personally use MODPlug Tracker because it's pretty much bare-bones nothingness, and you really have to toy with things for a while to get stuff chained right :]
And yeah, FL studio does have a flaw - its audio rendering engine is pretty poor, and the way it renders a final product, even if using non-FL stuff, kind of has the FL sound to it. :[
And yeah, FL studio does have a flaw - its audio rendering engine is pretty poor, and the way it renders a final product, even if using non-FL stuff, kind of has the FL sound to it. :[
I've used FL for a while and still do......and now I do agree with you.....a lot of the stock stuff the comes with FL is crap (even though I'm still guilty of still using some of it).....but after a while I hated people being able to tell I used FL simply because of the familiar synths and sounds and whatnot.....so I've gotten a lot of plugins and added a lot of my own crap and hopefully I'm better than or stand out from all the beginning FL users <..<
So people have made bad songs in it. Because it's forgiving to beginners. Sure the stock sucks but anyone who fiddles around with it for a week realizes that and gets some fucking VSTs or soundfonts, which it is in my opinion a pretty damn good host for
Nobody cares that you bother to navigate something that looks like Winamp and Microsoft Excel's mangled miscarriage.
Nobody cares that you bother to navigate something that looks like Winamp and Microsoft Excel's mangled miscarriage.
I'm still learning ModPlug, so I still use FL for the most part. I personally find FL easier for slicing and doing breakcore-ish stuff, but I really dislike having to record the effect tweaks by hand, so ModPlug works easier for that. Have Cubase, used it for one tune, might use it again.
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