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Ah, yet another of my uninspired titles ^^; Ah well. Here I offer something a little light, the vore is soft, but I think it's an amusing tale. Didn't write as many acts of mischief on Merinith's part as I probably should to try milk this concept ^^ but... in short, I lost my momentum, and my brain fizzled out... sad but true. But, at last, here it is finished. I hope you enjoy
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It was rather adorable seeing Merinith like that, playing with words, tricking his prey... I wouldn't mind having a bit of a wordplay with him.
It made me chuckle when I saw the fertilizing part and the very end. I didn't expect to see him joking and having that kind of kinky fun, but who would deny that it's just the most efficient way to proceed? ^,=,^
But maybe I'm a bit biased.
It made me chuckle when I saw the fertilizing part and the very end. I didn't expect to see him joking and having that kind of kinky fun, but who would deny that it's just the most efficient way to proceed? ^,=,^
But maybe I'm a bit biased.
Great writing as usual, but like the previous story, the basic plot seemed quite unbelievable. It seems Merinith (and other dragons of this world) enjoy having people come to them seeking favors, and then, not with brute force, but with their wits to sometimes make the humans their prey, all the while maintaining they are fair and honest and it is the humans' fault that they were eaten though trickery that could have been avoided if the human was cleverer than the dragon. But unfortunately, that is really not the case, because if the dragon happens to be hungry, as Merinith states very clearly himself, he may simply eat them before they even have a chance to speak! Now if that's how it really works, any human who approaches a dragon for a parley could be summarily eaten before he has any say, no matter how noble and just his request might be. So the truth of the matter is that Merinith is only "fair and honest" if he happens to not be hungry on the day of the visit and the humans have no idea if they are going to be eaten before they can plead their case or make their bargain. This is all good and well in an amusing fairy tale, but if we were to imagine this is a real world of humans and dragons, how many humans would ever dare to take such a risk? Probably none at all, and this is the fault of an otherwise excellent story.
For the story to seem believable, there would certainly have to be some kind of assurance that the humans would always get a chance to bargain, or there would never be human visitors trekking to their lairs to amuse (and feed) the resident dragon. A logical solution would be an 'unwritten rule' that humans and dragons would all be aware of, and would have likely been in place as long as dragons and humans lived the same lands. It would simply be that anyone who would call upon a dragon would be expected to bring to the dragon a food gift of approximately the same weight/food value as himself, since it is true that to dragons, humans are rightful prey, but the offering has in effect, has temporarily 'ransomed' them for the purpose of the visit . This gives the "fair and honest" dragon no excuse not to give the person a chance to make his case. The first man in this story then, was "safe" with his offering, until tricked to offer himself too, by inadvertently climbing on the food cart. John, on the other hand, too poor to even bring an offering (or somehow ignorant of the protocol) , was 'fair game' just as Merinith had warned, but was intrigued enough to hear his tale possibly because of his foolishness or bravado to come to him empty handed..
It is the same thing with the Robyn story. No bard would risk performing in 'dragon lands' without assurances he wouldn't be regarded as common prey. He could easily practice his trade in areas without dragons. and with his talents and charm, could become very wealthy without risk. As intelligent creatures, some dragons at least would probably enjoy the entertainment of bards, and likely the goods of traders, but they would never get either if potential visitors are afraid to come because this supposed intelligent, fair and just creature will transform into a savage, mindless predator simply because he hasn't had a good meal in awhile. I can see too, why humans as they increased their technologies would feel the need to destroy such creatures as dragons if they become able, because (in your thinking), hunger will turn them into deadly, unreasoning and unpredictable monsters. They would likely find allies in the gryphons as well, and since your dragons a oblivious to the growing sophistication of human weapons, will eventually be exterminated.
I assure you there is nothing realistic or 'scientific' in portraying your dragons so monstrously when in fact they are as intelligent as humans.
For the story to seem believable, there would certainly have to be some kind of assurance that the humans would always get a chance to bargain, or there would never be human visitors trekking to their lairs to amuse (and feed) the resident dragon. A logical solution would be an 'unwritten rule' that humans and dragons would all be aware of, and would have likely been in place as long as dragons and humans lived the same lands. It would simply be that anyone who would call upon a dragon would be expected to bring to the dragon a food gift of approximately the same weight/food value as himself, since it is true that to dragons, humans are rightful prey, but the offering has in effect, has temporarily 'ransomed' them for the purpose of the visit . This gives the "fair and honest" dragon no excuse not to give the person a chance to make his case. The first man in this story then, was "safe" with his offering, until tricked to offer himself too, by inadvertently climbing on the food cart. John, on the other hand, too poor to even bring an offering (or somehow ignorant of the protocol) , was 'fair game' just as Merinith had warned, but was intrigued enough to hear his tale possibly because of his foolishness or bravado to come to him empty handed..
It is the same thing with the Robyn story. No bard would risk performing in 'dragon lands' without assurances he wouldn't be regarded as common prey. He could easily practice his trade in areas without dragons. and with his talents and charm, could become very wealthy without risk. As intelligent creatures, some dragons at least would probably enjoy the entertainment of bards, and likely the goods of traders, but they would never get either if potential visitors are afraid to come because this supposed intelligent, fair and just creature will transform into a savage, mindless predator simply because he hasn't had a good meal in awhile. I can see too, why humans as they increased their technologies would feel the need to destroy such creatures as dragons if they become able, because (in your thinking), hunger will turn them into deadly, unreasoning and unpredictable monsters. They would likely find allies in the gryphons as well, and since your dragons a oblivious to the growing sophistication of human weapons, will eventually be exterminated.
I assure you there is nothing realistic or 'scientific' in portraying your dragons so monstrously when in fact they are as intelligent as humans.
I felt I made it clear that we do not agree on basic levels, and hence I consider this wasted time. For this reason, I'll be as brief as I can be.
Firstly, since you reject the premise that dragons will eat people on sight, I do not know how I can use that premise to point out the trouble with trying to form any sort of formal rule as to their meetings. Secondly, in general, those with a gift are fairly safe, and humans are foolish creatures, not to mention something about uncertain odds appears to excite many animals. If they know some gain from these meetings and some lose, confidence can blind.
Secondly, the entire island is "dragon lands" I felt I had made that unmistakably clear, and while Merinith may be two or three times the size of other breeds, he is far from the only dragon present. Therefore since Robyn has no wish to fly randomly out to sea, I find a fundamental flaw in your argument.
Lastly, I see now that you consider my dragons as monstrous, which is absurd, and at last reveals why you attack them so unyieldingly under the false pretense of reality. I think you've at last revealed the vital point. They are not what you feel dragons should be. Well, think what you will, but I know my fields where you do not, therefore your "assurance" that there is nothing scientific in how I've gone about deducing aspects of their minds, holds as much weight with me as if somebody who has only ever seen rivers assured me that salty water was impossible.
If you actually wish to debate dragon minds as the sole focus, disconnected from my stories, in a calm, rational manner, I'll accept that. But without understanding the reasons for the traits I give them, on a species, and in fact personal character level, then I find your statements of dismissal quite empty.
However, as is more likely I suspect, you wish to maintain this sort of comment, I believe you'd save us both time if you ceased you... "help" as you insist on calling it, and maybe even believing it
Firstly, since you reject the premise that dragons will eat people on sight, I do not know how I can use that premise to point out the trouble with trying to form any sort of formal rule as to their meetings. Secondly, in general, those with a gift are fairly safe, and humans are foolish creatures, not to mention something about uncertain odds appears to excite many animals. If they know some gain from these meetings and some lose, confidence can blind.
Secondly, the entire island is "dragon lands" I felt I had made that unmistakably clear, and while Merinith may be two or three times the size of other breeds, he is far from the only dragon present. Therefore since Robyn has no wish to fly randomly out to sea, I find a fundamental flaw in your argument.
Lastly, I see now that you consider my dragons as monstrous, which is absurd, and at last reveals why you attack them so unyieldingly under the false pretense of reality. I think you've at last revealed the vital point. They are not what you feel dragons should be. Well, think what you will, but I know my fields where you do not, therefore your "assurance" that there is nothing scientific in how I've gone about deducing aspects of their minds, holds as much weight with me as if somebody who has only ever seen rivers assured me that salty water was impossible.
If you actually wish to debate dragon minds as the sole focus, disconnected from my stories, in a calm, rational manner, I'll accept that. But without understanding the reasons for the traits I give them, on a species, and in fact personal character level, then I find your statements of dismissal quite empty.
However, as is more likely I suspect, you wish to maintain this sort of comment, I believe you'd save us both time if you ceased you... "help" as you insist on calling it, and maybe even believing it
You really don't get it. People would never 'bargain' with Merinith in the manner of your story, since he or any other dragon apparently, would likely eat them out of hand if they were feeling peckish at the moment. Even though they speak and are intelligent, it would be as foolish as trying to plead a case to a tiger or crocodile in our world, so people wouldn't do it, and there would be no basis for this story. Dragons that are so clever in mincing words would equally understand that they would not even have these kinds of interactions if they ate many of the people before they even had a chance to plead their case or make their bargain.
Though you are very good at dialogue and description, your 'world building' is frankly abysmal. Every suggestion I have ever made to make your stories more plausible was intelligent and based on historical and scientific precedent. You are probably too young and inexperienced to comprehend these things, ore simply too conceited to accept any sort of criticism. And back to science, it would be absurd to think any real animal would be able to process and defecate the remains of a large meal of a fully clothed human and two intact deer in only what could have been 3-5 hours at most. 0f course, it is possible Merinith was ready to evacuate a meal from the previous day and merely said it was the remains of the human he watched the dragon eat simply to make John feel more uncomfortable (dragon humor?).
Though you are very good at dialogue and description, your 'world building' is frankly abysmal. Every suggestion I have ever made to make your stories more plausible was intelligent and based on historical and scientific precedent. You are probably too young and inexperienced to comprehend these things, ore simply too conceited to accept any sort of criticism. And back to science, it would be absurd to think any real animal would be able to process and defecate the remains of a large meal of a fully clothed human and two intact deer in only what could have been 3-5 hours at most. 0f course, it is possible Merinith was ready to evacuate a meal from the previous day and merely said it was the remains of the human he watched the dragon eat simply to make John feel more uncomfortable (dragon humor?).
Bearing in mind, this tale was written for a vorish audience, and not intended for publishing, the setting was chosen for its amusement value, as I thought I had made reasonably clear.
Personally, I think you underestimate the effect of tales and legend... or perhaps overestimate these people... they tell stories... the stories they tell, are the ones they like, that's a bias. It's a slim excuse, I'll grant, but as I said, were I actually writing a novel, I wouldn't be doing this scene.
My view, of course, is that your suggestions are "abysmal" and are highly implausible, unrealistic, and frankly, often seem laughable to me. Clearly, you have a similar opinion of my worlds. It's a bit sad that to protect your ego on this matter you have to make claims of youthful foolishness, conceit or such... really, it's actually quite pathetic. I've told you that I've changed over the ten or so years I've been writing, my earliest work was garbage, as one might expect, I took criticism, changed. I've had inspiration from many sources, and believe it or not, I do listen to other people. The misunderstanding here, is you refuse to accept, that it is you, you alone, you personally, and your views that I disagree with. I'm not sure why you refuse to accept that I simply think you are wrong as much as you think I am wrong, and that I hold to my rationality and disagree with yours as much as you do mine. I have said before, and will say again, we simply view it in very different lights, so different that apparently neither can see the other's rationality. You think I'm foolish, and I think you're foolish. Personally, I think I'm being quite rational in stating, we therefore have nothing to say to one another, and hence are wasting time continuing this. It doesn't speak well, I feel, that you continue to berate me, not willing to accept, that I think your ideas are lousy as much as you think my world is wrong. Won't you finally do us both a favor, agree to disagree, and leave my content alone, or at least, if you're desperate to make suggestions, perhaps switch to a less aggressive approach? Either would be fine, but I've no intention of keeping up this current routine... I could be typing right now.
And Yes, Merinith's meal is of course not the actual human he ate that morning... who knows, maybe some tiny part seeped down over five hours, but it would be minute even then. It was mostly a tease
Personally, I think you underestimate the effect of tales and legend... or perhaps overestimate these people... they tell stories... the stories they tell, are the ones they like, that's a bias. It's a slim excuse, I'll grant, but as I said, were I actually writing a novel, I wouldn't be doing this scene.
My view, of course, is that your suggestions are "abysmal" and are highly implausible, unrealistic, and frankly, often seem laughable to me. Clearly, you have a similar opinion of my worlds. It's a bit sad that to protect your ego on this matter you have to make claims of youthful foolishness, conceit or such... really, it's actually quite pathetic. I've told you that I've changed over the ten or so years I've been writing, my earliest work was garbage, as one might expect, I took criticism, changed. I've had inspiration from many sources, and believe it or not, I do listen to other people. The misunderstanding here, is you refuse to accept, that it is you, you alone, you personally, and your views that I disagree with. I'm not sure why you refuse to accept that I simply think you are wrong as much as you think I am wrong, and that I hold to my rationality and disagree with yours as much as you do mine. I have said before, and will say again, we simply view it in very different lights, so different that apparently neither can see the other's rationality. You think I'm foolish, and I think you're foolish. Personally, I think I'm being quite rational in stating, we therefore have nothing to say to one another, and hence are wasting time continuing this. It doesn't speak well, I feel, that you continue to berate me, not willing to accept, that I think your ideas are lousy as much as you think my world is wrong. Won't you finally do us both a favor, agree to disagree, and leave my content alone, or at least, if you're desperate to make suggestions, perhaps switch to a less aggressive approach? Either would be fine, but I've no intention of keeping up this current routine... I could be typing right now.
And Yes, Merinith's meal is of course not the actual human he ate that morning... who knows, maybe some tiny part seeped down over five hours, but it would be minute even then. It was mostly a tease
What a pleasant fun little story! I really got to have that wide grin mood, and you even delivered a perfect final punch all in a rather clean manner, but so suggestive!
Eh, I can't help my lust for some fine dragon fun, and honestly, it is hard to find stuff fitting my tastes here on FA, but yours work on me! Two faves in a row from me, quite a rarity, but you managed to earn it!
Of course I could scold, go on how it could have been fleshed out here and there (the human relations aspect feeling a bit lacking, definitely should receive some polish as you develop your skills), but this so much suggests telling sort of a fairy tale, some old lore, not aiming to be any grander that it works out all well. (Bits of nitpicking: in real world, not even a dragon could build up a workable house in a day, not even if he was Chuck Norris, carnivore dung isn't a good fertilizer, eh I know these since I have some related heritage and experience, but in legend, these could happen as old events fuse together)
So I think this a quite fine funny little novel, composed in such a manner it could well entertain non-fandom people just having a kink for dragons! (in my case vore is not quite in my interest zone, but how you use it fits all well in the story, not over-emphasizing, so I can really enjoy even those)
Eh, bits of side notes. That dragon above (Sirrush) sure has a rock-hard head when it comes to how their universe should be shaped like, but also has some interesting ideas I am neither devoid of the sin of stubbornness... but I am just a wimpy little cheetah... Blast it, let's fix that! Looks out left, looks out right, good, no-one... Eyes close, meditating, pebbles start raising, swirls of smoke erupting until concealing my fragile being. The dusty cloud grows larger and larger shooting out blue spears of energy until the storm which brought it alive suddenly ceases, leaving an eerie silence behind. The brownish haze slowly abates to reveal... Glimmer, the Sun's streaks deflecting from glazing scales as a huge fifty foot wingspan brass wyvern comes out from the settling remnants of arcane energies. "Sso... Let'ss have a chat about dragon perssonalitiesss..." >:>]
Eh, I can't help my lust for some fine dragon fun, and honestly, it is hard to find stuff fitting my tastes here on FA, but yours work on me! Two faves in a row from me, quite a rarity, but you managed to earn it!
Of course I could scold, go on how it could have been fleshed out here and there (the human relations aspect feeling a bit lacking, definitely should receive some polish as you develop your skills), but this so much suggests telling sort of a fairy tale, some old lore, not aiming to be any grander that it works out all well. (Bits of nitpicking: in real world, not even a dragon could build up a workable house in a day, not even if he was Chuck Norris, carnivore dung isn't a good fertilizer, eh I know these since I have some related heritage and experience, but in legend, these could happen as old events fuse together)
So I think this a quite fine funny little novel, composed in such a manner it could well entertain non-fandom people just having a kink for dragons! (in my case vore is not quite in my interest zone, but how you use it fits all well in the story, not over-emphasizing, so I can really enjoy even those)
Eh, bits of side notes. That dragon above (Sirrush) sure has a rock-hard head when it comes to how their universe should be shaped like, but also has some interesting ideas I am neither devoid of the sin of stubbornness... but I am just a wimpy little cheetah... Blast it, let's fix that! Looks out left, looks out right, good, no-one... Eyes close, meditating, pebbles start raising, swirls of smoke erupting until concealing my fragile being. The dusty cloud grows larger and larger shooting out blue spears of energy until the storm which brought it alive suddenly ceases, leaving an eerie silence behind. The brownish haze slowly abates to reveal... Glimmer, the Sun's streaks deflecting from glazing scales as a huge fifty foot wingspan brass wyvern comes out from the settling remnants of arcane energies. "Sso... Let'ss have a chat about dragon perssonalitiesss..." >:>]
^^; well, I'll bend to your knowledge of fertilizer, neither I... nor Merinith, have much idea about that. The home building also, though granted it's a crude extension, but still I see the point. Really, as you said, it was quite meant to be a fun little thing. If you progress more deeply into my works, you might find a lot of people view my Merinith quite harshly... so I was quite... desperate to show off his more light hearted nature... ^^; his soft side.
Granted, I don't want to belittle the site... but, heh, what I post here is rarely my best work, rarely my most... deeply thought out pieces. I'm mostly typing to use up vorish or fun ideas that I can't fit into any of my novel plans. There are likely to be a fair few little slips, little aspects to most that don't quite fit, like you've noted.
Though, as you also note, and I do hear a fair bit, is that the vore in my stories, while I try to make it present, is normally not the sole focus. I write a story, with eating in it, as opposed to writing eating with a vague story wrapped around it, which is suitably as thin as wrapping paper.
And, heh ^^; I think Sirrush is a topic best left untouched... a presence of very firm opinion, and ideas... some of which I find as ridiculously unrealistic as he seems to find mine. He and I don't agree on much, and while some of his world concepts I do write at times, I enjoy experiencing dragons in all avenues... it's a pity really, that in our conversations he rejects the notion that my disagreeing with him could be for reasons other than ignorance or denial... but regardless, it's hardly a topic I wish to discuss... However, if you'd like to discuss dragon personalities, I don't mind that. Though of course it's a very wide medium
Granted, I don't want to belittle the site... but, heh, what I post here is rarely my best work, rarely my most... deeply thought out pieces. I'm mostly typing to use up vorish or fun ideas that I can't fit into any of my novel plans. There are likely to be a fair few little slips, little aspects to most that don't quite fit, like you've noted.
Though, as you also note, and I do hear a fair bit, is that the vore in my stories, while I try to make it present, is normally not the sole focus. I write a story, with eating in it, as opposed to writing eating with a vague story wrapped around it, which is suitably as thin as wrapping paper.
And, heh ^^; I think Sirrush is a topic best left untouched... a presence of very firm opinion, and ideas... some of which I find as ridiculously unrealistic as he seems to find mine. He and I don't agree on much, and while some of his world concepts I do write at times, I enjoy experiencing dragons in all avenues... it's a pity really, that in our conversations he rejects the notion that my disagreeing with him could be for reasons other than ignorance or denial... but regardless, it's hardly a topic I wish to discuss... However, if you'd like to discuss dragon personalities, I don't mind that. Though of course it's a very wide medium
I see your point about Merinith, and appreciate it: it worked out wonderfully with me! ;)
And... Where do you post your best work by the way? While, obviously, I have my sharp edges, I like the ideas you explore, the concepts behind your story-telling: it is something unusual at least here, but even in overall: you manage to cover problems, show controversies, intriguing, even surmounting some epics which managed to get in print. Keep this attitude, polish your writing and world-crafting, and you become a writer for real, at least that's my honest opinion!
For the rest I rather dropped a private note. Hope no problem discussing some that way!
And... Where do you post your best work by the way? While, obviously, I have my sharp edges, I like the ideas you explore, the concepts behind your story-telling: it is something unusual at least here, but even in overall: you manage to cover problems, show controversies, intriguing, even surmounting some epics which managed to get in print. Keep this attitude, polish your writing and world-crafting, and you become a writer for real, at least that's my honest opinion!
For the rest I rather dropped a private note. Hope no problem discussing some that way!
Ew... was not a fan of the last bit... Otherwise really good... despite my fascination with vore my autistic mind is the furthest thing from a dirty mind... I do feel though that Merinth's personality is different in each one of these. I think your going for different aspects, but they seem like completely different dragons a little bit. Not complaining, but I did notice that
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