I made her special for all the MRA furries out there.
Of which there are, what, three?
Honestly there seem to be a lot moreMRA bronies. MRAism and bronyism seem to go together like furries and basements, but I didn't feel like drawing any fluttershy so enjoy this skunk thing instead. I did not look at a single photo of a zorilla before drawing this, so a zorilla might in fact just be a misspelling of gorilla for all I know.
Of which there are, what, three?
Honestly there seem to be a lot moreMRA bronies. MRAism and bronyism seem to go together like furries and basements, but I didn't feel like drawing any fluttershy so enjoy this skunk thing instead. I did not look at a single photo of a zorilla before drawing this, so a zorilla might in fact just be a misspelling of gorilla for all I know.
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I am, as well. On one hand, I'm seeing a gigantic strawman; my own understanding of the MRAs are that they're more whiny than violent and aggressive, and that Agouti might be conflating the MRA movement with "RedPill" ideology (Full disclosure: I'm working off of how they represent themselves on Reddit, as well as their reputations).
On the other, I don't really have a dog in the supposed MRA vs. feminism fight, and would be rather unwilling to argue against any of Agouti's other watchers when they inevitably chime in to vehemently disagree with my dissent. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with any viewpoints (I identify as neither feminist nor MRA), I just think that Agouti's being rather unfair and antagonistic in his portrayal of the MRA. Not that he's obligated to be anything else, of course: I understand he's... A feminist, I guess, and some sort of comedy-person, so he isn't supposed to be "fair."
I suppose I'll split the difference and agree with you.
On the other, I don't really have a dog in the supposed MRA vs. feminism fight, and would be rather unwilling to argue against any of Agouti's other watchers when they inevitably chime in to vehemently disagree with my dissent. I'm not necessarily disagreeing with any viewpoints (I identify as neither feminist nor MRA), I just think that Agouti's being rather unfair and antagonistic in his portrayal of the MRA. Not that he's obligated to be anything else, of course: I understand he's... A feminist, I guess, and some sort of comedy-person, so he isn't supposed to be "fair."
I suppose I'll split the difference and agree with you.
I'm not 'MRA', but when entire social media groups are devoted to talking about what sort of scumbags men are - <patronizing> "... but we're not necessarily talking about you..." </patronizing> - immediately shutting down and labeling any guy who objects, I can't help but feel very slightly threatened and degraded. And no, I don't think that's some sort of poetic justice, because I have never treated a woman as less than my equal and have always supported equality.
I don't feel conflicted about this picture at all - it's bullshit, and it's vicious bullshit.
I don't feel conflicted about this picture at all - it's bullshit, and it's vicious bullshit.
Maybe he is, but it's still a logical train wreck, and you're doing no better. First off, women don't have a monopoly on prejudice, stereotypes, devaluation or abuse. Your claim that "men don't have problems worth complaining about" is a bold-faced lie which proves itself; what if I said that "women don't have problems worth complaining about"? I'd be fucking mobbed, and rightly so... but it's okay to turn it around the other way? Bullshit. You state that if someone basically calls you a sack of shit based on your gender, getting angry about it is the same as saying, for example, "rape is a compliment to how sexy you are"?
You are shooting off at the mouth with no regards for facts, logic or fairness, and associating yourself with feminists makes you that one rioter at a peaceful protest.
FYI I actually do useful shit in the activist scene, with no small focus on social justice. How about you, Lancelot?
You are shooting off at the mouth with no regards for facts, logic or fairness, and associating yourself with feminists makes you that one rioter at a peaceful protest.
FYI I actually do useful shit in the activist scene, with no small focus on social justice. How about you, Lancelot?
I dunno how prevalent it actually is, but whenever that has come up, I never understood how a brony could be an MRA considering how their favorite show is cast. I guess I could theorize the matriarchal utopia kind of has a greater emphasis on female responsibility than the "adult child" cultural paradigm that is given a pass in America, thus MRA's are attracted to that in spite of their somewhat misogynistic outlooks otherwise? meh, still seems odd.
wow this is a an old post to dig up lol. I dunno man the closest I ever saw to straight up misandry in the show was just "zephyr breeze"'s entire character since he was a walking punchline with no redeeming value. I mean spike got the raw end of the stick sometimes too, but I never saw a straight up "fuck men and their rights" message thing. if anything the episode where they dunk on communism makes it less misandrist overall due to how entangled 3rd wave feminism is with that quagmire.
Well, way back when this first came out, I had no idea what Fur Affinity even was, as I was like 11 or so. Also, here is a thing further explaining it (I myself didn't notice it; it was very subtle): https://acidmensrights.wordpress.co.....ic/#comment-54
interesting perspective but I think it's a bit of a reach. Also in the wider context of how the show was designed and marketed, I think expecting equal male representation (both in population & hierarchies of competence) is slightly unreasonable and we are lucky to have the male characters we did have. Also in particular the article talks about how negative discord is, but he is extremely popular for a supporting cast member and has better powers than either of the princesses.
What's funny is, and I dunno where you live, but here in Alabama I see more women like that than you'd think. Not quite THAT extreme, but the whole "Men are pussies today, I want a traditional guy who brings in the money and I do the housework and cooking" thing.
Still....I'd take this over the "You looked at me from across the room. Our eyes met for just longer than a second and there was something between us. We shared a moment and I'll never forget it for as long as I live. It was at that moment you LITERALLY RAPED ME IN FRONT OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE! DID EVERYONE SEE THAT?!? THAT DUDE JUST RAPED ME HOW DARE HE?!?" shit that the opposing side flings.
Still....I'd take this over the "You looked at me from across the room. Our eyes met for just longer than a second and there was something between us. We shared a moment and I'll never forget it for as long as I live. It was at that moment you LITERALLY RAPED ME IN FRONT OF A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE! DID EVERYONE SEE THAT?!? THAT DUDE JUST RAPED ME HOW DARE HE?!?" shit that the opposing side flings.
It makes me think about confused cats! http://confusedcatsagainstfeminism.tumblr.com/
MRA's not only disgust me, they really are ill-named. They don't give two shits about any legitimate issues that might affect men. (Guys who are raped, guys who are unable to have contact with their kids.) They don't give a flying fuck about any of that. They might pretend to every blue moon if it suits them. But they really just hate women. They're nothing but a misogynist backlash against their own clownish straw(wo)man(?) version of feminism.
And their idea of what 'masculinity' entails is truly the lowest of the low.
I remember a time where being a man was specifically in NOT hitting women, and in general never picking on weaker people. And where values to have where about reliability, maturity, honesty, standing by your word and for your work. And where those things where considered in general to be good things. They where not only things you had to be able to do if you wanted to really call yourself a real man. But if a woman had those attributes, great too! They where just in general considered good things. Doing your best, being a good person and offering support to your loved ones. Something that's harder to do then talking shit and being an asshole. Something that requires actual steady effort and being a good person. That's how it is where I hail from.
The MRA's... they're like cartoon orcs or something... 'I beat yah, cuz I is bigga. Anyfing bigga then me is a boss.' It might be pretty funny for cartoon orcs, but for halfway civilized people in the real world it's truly a low. And the only thing these guys ever really seem to do is bully people online on forums, vids, gameservers, etc. and defend domestic abusers and rapists. The fact they're frequently quite homophobic as well is the cherry on the shit sundae that's the MRA movement. Activists my ass. They're just shit.
MRA's are contemptible vermin. I spit in their faces.
And their idea of what 'masculinity' entails is truly the lowest of the low.
I remember a time where being a man was specifically in NOT hitting women, and in general never picking on weaker people. And where values to have where about reliability, maturity, honesty, standing by your word and for your work. And where those things where considered in general to be good things. They where not only things you had to be able to do if you wanted to really call yourself a real man. But if a woman had those attributes, great too! They where just in general considered good things. Doing your best, being a good person and offering support to your loved ones. Something that's harder to do then talking shit and being an asshole. Something that requires actual steady effort and being a good person. That's how it is where I hail from.
The MRA's... they're like cartoon orcs or something... 'I beat yah, cuz I is bigga. Anyfing bigga then me is a boss.' It might be pretty funny for cartoon orcs, but for halfway civilized people in the real world it's truly a low. And the only thing these guys ever really seem to do is bully people online on forums, vids, gameservers, etc. and defend domestic abusers and rapists. The fact they're frequently quite homophobic as well is the cherry on the shit sundae that's the MRA movement. Activists my ass. They're just shit.
MRA's are contemptible vermin. I spit in their faces.
Stop. Making. Assumptions. About. Us. I am LGBT (gay trans man), MRA, biracial, etc. A girl tried to rape me. And you wanna know the only people who helped me? MRAs. Everyone else attacked me or ignored what I said. I have been abused, both in family and dating relationships. The only people to help me, to BELIEVE me? MRAs.
Stop being so fucking disgusting about your assumptions about us....they hurt. We're real people. We do not deserve to be attacked for things we never even did.
Also, the vast majority of the Men's Rights Movement is pro-gay and many are gay (I even know a lesbian MRA, possibly 2)
Stop being so fucking disgusting about your assumptions about us....they hurt. We're real people. We do not deserve to be attacked for things we never even did.
Also, the vast majority of the Men's Rights Movement is pro-gay and many are gay (I even know a lesbian MRA, possibly 2)
How could I possibly argue with this and not be automatically viewed as a misogynistic, cisscum, crybaby shitlord. I know you only produced this for the echo-chamber of pristine, shining examples of humanity and rationality that are "feminists". This surely would only be used to lampoon "whiny, fat, virgin, basement-dwelling" MRAs and not just anyone who dares to question the rhetoric of someone who identifies themselves as a "feminist" on the internet and refuses to have a rational argument that doesn't end with insults. I'm certainly not an MRA, but a lot of what I see of feminists is male-shaming. This idea that all men don't have a right to have any grievances, especially if they're white, because of someone else's conflated idea of where they stand socially boggles me. Or the idea presented by some, which I only assume from reading "some people's" rebuttals, that cisgendered men have absolutely no right to discuss or debate certain issues completely based on the fact that that is what they identify as. I absolutely stand for equal representation, and trying to induce my views from things I may not have said will not change that.
I honestly hate the venomous rhetoric I've seen coming from so-called "activists" in here.
Could you link me to some resources that you earnestly believe to discuss these issue rationally, because I'd like to become more informed, without hostility. Not something that "may seem hostile towards you because you're so privileged" bullshit.
I honestly hate the venomous rhetoric I've seen coming from so-called "activists" in here.
Could you link me to some resources that you earnestly believe to discuss these issue rationally, because I'd like to become more informed, without hostility. Not something that "may seem hostile towards you because you're so privileged" bullshit.
You can certainly disagree with a lot of feminism without being an MRA, because I will not deny that there are certain brands of feminism that I don't agree with. This is mostly commenting on the strange phenomenom of women who adopt extreme anti-woman viewpoints for...well, it's not clear why,it often seems to be because they think of feminism as prudish and don't want to be seen that way.
I don't know of any rational sources, because, not tryingto be glib, this is the Internet and everyone is a screaming lunatic. You might try Wikipedia for a relatively impartial crash course, I guess.
I don't know of any rational sources, because, not tryingto be glib, this is the Internet and everyone is a screaming lunatic. You might try Wikipedia for a relatively impartial crash course, I guess.
Since everybody else in the comments has been drinking out of the stupid pool, i'm going to adress the many, many, many problems with this.
"Women deserve to be paid less because they gravitate towards useless professions like teaching!"
Women are not paid less than men, this has been debunks countless times.
"Feminism has pussified men! A strong women needs a man with a strong backhand!"
Firstly, yes feminism has pussified men which is a reason why we do not need feminism. Secondly, learn to spell. Thirdly, Anti-feminists nor MRAs advocate for the abuse of women you dumb fucks.
"Feminists are always harping on how theres too much violence against women! Well I say that theres just the right amount of violence on women!"
Yes feminists are harping on how theres too much violence on women, they're also saying the men cannot be abused or raped. Again, Anti-feminists and MRAs do not advocate the abuse of women.
"Don't call me a woman, i'm not some stuffy no fun prude! I prefer to be called sweet tits!"
That first part can be seen as transphobic to FtM individuals. Also, there are some people who do prefer dirty pet names, and some of them are women.
"Rape is a comment to how sexy you are!"
Again, no Anti-feminist/MRA would be caught dead saying that as men do get raped
"I don't understand how anybody could think differently!"
Again, highly rude and offensive to men who have been raped.
If I was an anti-furry asshole I would say that all furries are like this, but i'm not like you people.
And even if I did say that all furries were like this i'd be as big of an asshole as you fucks, and it's very ironic seeing how Bronies are more gender equal than any of you, and not because the show has a mostly female cast.
And since I know all of you are going to shout "MALE CISHET SCUM", I am Bisexual Aromatic, and being about gender equality does not make you a feminist, but you guys probably have your heads shoved so far up your asses that you're not going to listen and instead flood my message box with the same exact strawman and/or insults over and over again.
"Women deserve to be paid less because they gravitate towards useless professions like teaching!"
Women are not paid less than men, this has been debunks countless times.
"Feminism has pussified men! A strong women needs a man with a strong backhand!"
Firstly, yes feminism has pussified men which is a reason why we do not need feminism. Secondly, learn to spell. Thirdly, Anti-feminists nor MRAs advocate for the abuse of women you dumb fucks.
"Feminists are always harping on how theres too much violence against women! Well I say that theres just the right amount of violence on women!"
Yes feminists are harping on how theres too much violence on women, they're also saying the men cannot be abused or raped. Again, Anti-feminists and MRAs do not advocate the abuse of women.
"Don't call me a woman, i'm not some stuffy no fun prude! I prefer to be called sweet tits!"
That first part can be seen as transphobic to FtM individuals. Also, there are some people who do prefer dirty pet names, and some of them are women.
"Rape is a comment to how sexy you are!"
Again, no Anti-feminist/MRA would be caught dead saying that as men do get raped
"I don't understand how anybody could think differently!"
Again, highly rude and offensive to men who have been raped.
If I was an anti-furry asshole I would say that all furries are like this, but i'm not like you people.
And even if I did say that all furries were like this i'd be as big of an asshole as you fucks, and it's very ironic seeing how Bronies are more gender equal than any of you, and not because the show has a mostly female cast.
And since I know all of you are going to shout "MALE CISHET SCUM", I am Bisexual Aromatic, and being about gender equality does not make you a feminist, but you guys probably have your heads shoved so far up your asses that you're not going to listen and instead flood my message box with the same exact strawman and/or insults over and over again.
Alright, regardless of this being a year old, I am more then happy to tear your ass a new one with this piece of crap you call satire.
"Women Deserve to be paid less because they gravitate to useless professions" Oh god I already have to use this... HEY MORON. FUCKING MORON. No one's saying they're useless, they just pay less because they earn less money. If you think that's wrong then stop advocating feminism and say schools need to be publicly funded more
"Feminism has Pussified Men!" It is certainly trying to. Have you seen the White Knights? Listen and Believe instead of questioning things? It's 'Pussifying' everything because of that.
"Feminist are always harping about violence against women, and I say it's the right amount!" No amount of violence against anyone is right except zero, but that isn't the world we live in. And men are statistically more likely to be targeted by violence in any way.
"Rape is a Compliment!" Here we go again. HEY MORON. FUCKING MORON. No one is saying that! Least of all MRAs.
"Don't call me a Woman! Call me Sweet Tits." What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to be preforming to get to the conclusion that MRAs think women want to be called something quite frankly sexist.
MRAs don't think this is a new Heroine, and she doesn't express our opinion. This is a poor attempt at satire and humor because no one is saying this in any way. You fail.
"Women Deserve to be paid less because they gravitate to useless professions" Oh god I already have to use this... HEY MORON. FUCKING MORON. No one's saying they're useless, they just pay less because they earn less money. If you think that's wrong then stop advocating feminism and say schools need to be publicly funded more
"Feminism has Pussified Men!" It is certainly trying to. Have you seen the White Knights? Listen and Believe instead of questioning things? It's 'Pussifying' everything because of that.
"Feminist are always harping about violence against women, and I say it's the right amount!" No amount of violence against anyone is right except zero, but that isn't the world we live in. And men are statistically more likely to be targeted by violence in any way.
"Rape is a Compliment!" Here we go again. HEY MORON. FUCKING MORON. No one is saying that! Least of all MRAs.
"Don't call me a Woman! Call me Sweet Tits." What kind of mental gymnastics do you have to be preforming to get to the conclusion that MRAs think women want to be called something quite frankly sexist.
MRAs don't think this is a new Heroine, and she doesn't express our opinion. This is a poor attempt at satire and humor because no one is saying this in any way. You fail.
And while that's your opinion, that's not the general agreement. Humor is a broad term and you've still fucked it up by saying it's about pissing people off. I can exaggerate a feminist as a radical with no concept of reality because they exist within the feminist community I can give you an example of a Feminist Radical who people think are insane. This MRA Heroine just shows how little you know about MRA, or what feminism has truly become recently for that matter. No one in the MRA is saying rape is a compliment, not even extremists... well, at least in this and other western world country.
No it gets much worse. She managed to get the attention of the UN, and used that valuable time to whine that people disagreed with her on social media, and insisted these people be silenced. Third World Countries? Actual Women Suffrage today? Bah Fuck it! My feelings were hurt!
The problem is that feminism is now all about getting special privileges. Women currently hold all the power in society, but many feminists refuse to see reality and believe that political correctness gone mad is the answer. It is sadly no surprise that many feminists would welcome oppression by muslims, communists and sjws if it meant that they could eliminate things that offend their feelings like tracer in overwatch >:C
Nope. A girl tried to rape me. Only MRAs supported me and believed me. And, frankly, this "satire" is misogynistic towards MRA women. And, no, I'm not being a simp or anything, first off I'm a trans man who likes men, and also I would defend male MRAs the same.
How about actually learn about us instead of attacking us with strawmen?
How about actually learn about us instead of attacking us with strawmen?
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