Tim Fay (a member) has been asking me to post this, and I finally got around to finding the art and scanning it. It was a take-off from a drawing of Tim's. It seems to presume there is a club of sorts of people who deem themselves honorary skunks, as that's Tim on the left and it seems likely the one of the right represents moi. I never asked him about that directly. Strange as it may seem, it was not an idea I was comfortable with in 1987.
You can see Tim's version at - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1440795/
You can see Tim's version at - http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1440795/
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Yes, and thanks for posting it! When I sent you my original I wasn't expecting you'd rework it, let alone do such a great job.
Innocent naif that I was back in 1987, I never thought of this drawing as anything other than a gag involving a couple of Walt Kelly fans. There's also an element of that curious doctrine that holds that artists are consigned to spend the afterlife incarnated as their creations. Or something like that.
BTW, in my original drawing the skunk on the right was supposed to be Saara, though the distinction is rather moot at this point.
Innocent naif that I was back in 1987, I never thought of this drawing as anything other than a gag involving a couple of Walt Kelly fans. There's also an element of that curious doctrine that holds that artists are consigned to spend the afterlife incarnated as their creations. Or something like that.
BTW, in my original drawing the skunk on the right was supposed to be Saara, though the distinction is rather moot at this point.
Actually, you must still have the original. I had to scan a xerox copy from a file folder of misc. furry art where I keep a few other things of yours. I do have a couple of original pencil sketches of yours, but I didn't find this piece with them. (It *is* possible that the original of Societe is just somewhere else. I have two bulging zip binders full of collected originals and they aren't perfectly organized.)
Ah! It's Saara. I should have thought of that. Actually, the difference is important. I don't regard Saara as an alter ego, but more as a complementary figure. I wouldn't want to be her, I just want her to be here!
The idea about creators comes from Hendrik van Loon, and he wrote it in the 30's or 40's. I used the quote myself in a three page "story", and that may be where you saw it. The pages were almost certainly run in Rowrbrazzle way back when.
Ah! It's Saara. I should have thought of that. Actually, the difference is important. I don't regard Saara as an alter ego, but more as a complementary figure. I wouldn't want to be her, I just want her to be here!
The idea about creators comes from Hendrik van Loon, and he wrote it in the 30's or 40's. I used the quote myself in a three page "story", and that may be where you saw it. The pages were almost certainly run in Rowrbrazzle way back when.
That's entirely possible -- my collection of old art isn't anywhere near as organized as yours, so who knows where it might be buried. Just as well, since I can't look at my original without cringing.
Thanks for the clarification on Saara. At the time I did the drawing I simply assumed she was a kind of alter-ego of yours. For my part, I wouldn't mind being a cartoon skunkette. Then again, I wouldn't mind being a superhero or an intelligent alien kangaroo with a time machine (just call me "Doctor Roo").
I recall another piece where you reference van Loon's ideas. In fact, it's right here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1346039/ It was either you or Ken/Heywulf who first revealed this unique philosophy to me.
Thanks for the clarification on Saara. At the time I did the drawing I simply assumed she was a kind of alter-ego of yours. For my part, I wouldn't mind being a cartoon skunkette. Then again, I wouldn't mind being a superhero or an intelligent alien kangaroo with a time machine (just call me "Doctor Roo").
I recall another piece where you reference van Loon's ideas. In fact, it's right here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/1346039/ It was either you or Ken/Heywulf who first revealed this unique philosophy to me.
Probably not Ken unless he hit on it by himself. You have to be pretty well read in van Loon to have found that quote, and who collects *his* books anymore? I only happened to collect them more or less by accident.
But... you never know I suppose. Maybe Ken has an attic full of van Loon books. I gave up after just a few, and haven't actually read most of them. They're stuffy and painfully "Old World". His idea of a fascinating historical character would be a 12th. century Dutch monk, or a composer of Silesian march tunes from the 1840's, or the Serbian general who won the Battle of Krvszcyz in 1686, o rmaybe the cobbler who invented the Polish style gusset, or then again a knight from 1102 who said King Feodor smelled like the local cheese and had it named after him (as a martyr who was beheaded for his witticism)...
But... you never know I suppose. Maybe Ken has an attic full of van Loon books. I gave up after just a few, and haven't actually read most of them. They're stuffy and painfully "Old World". His idea of a fascinating historical character would be a 12th. century Dutch monk, or a composer of Silesian march tunes from the 1840's, or the Serbian general who won the Battle of Krvszcyz in 1686, o rmaybe the cobbler who invented the Polish style gusset, or then again a knight from 1102 who said King Feodor smelled like the local cheese and had it named after him (as a martyr who was beheaded for his witticism)...
There is/was a site on Usenet called alt.skunks that I used to visit from time to time - originally it was about, y'know, SKUNKS, either as pets or as unwanted visitors. Eventually it was overrun by trolls who proceeded to wreck it, driving out all the former inhabitants; having done so, they presently left themselves, and after a longish time, a literary set moved in, calling themselves skunks and posting literary stuff not having any particular connection with the Mighty Striped Ones. I have no idea what's going on there now as I stopped visiting it around the ned of the last century. I particularly miss Jane Bone the Georgia Skunk Lady (from the original group).
he did. a Looooong ass time ago. a one shot comic. but you see, I collect anything that was furry. and his comic certainly counted. Starfox before nintendo got the name. Crow of the bear clan. (with the hotest metal working skunk Evah!) Mighty Tiny. Ebnn the raven. gnatrat. birthright. albedo. High Orbit. Zaibiatsu tears. all of these stored in my memory's hoard. gone in paper, but forever in my head.
Most of those I know and may even have had at least one copy once. (I've gotten rid of a lot of material that didn't appear to in the long run). But Starfox excapes my memory? It might have been a self-published book with a very low circulation... or was it a series in some other publication (that I'd be less likely to commit to memory)?
Ah--you must be talking about Entropy Tales. That was a small-press, B&W comic book anthology, published locally but distributed nationally (back when there was more than one comic book distributor, and they were willing to carry small-press publications like ours). Those early issues featured my "Starfox" stories, along with "Mighty Slug" by Mike Waltz and "Nightwolf" by Pete Krause (who later went to work for DC on Star Trek and the revamped Captain Marvel). You can still find copies of Entropy Tales in the 25-cent bin at your local comics/specialty stores and at some of your finer comic book conventions. :) I believe that was around 1986/1987 -- indeed, a very long-assed time ago.
I believe I created four Starfox stories, two of which were published in Entropy Tales: "Sweet Sixteen" and "Flying." "Sixteen" was first published in John Cawley's Foxhole fanzine, and I think "Flying" was reprinted in Rowrbrazzle. There was also a third story, "The Tiger," and another story I started but never finished (kind of an "origin" story).
To answer your other question, I have thought about resurrecting Jen and the crew in an on-line format. In fact, that's something I've been trying to work on over the last year or so. The problem, as always, is finding both the time and inspiration to work on it. If it ever happens, I'll be sure to mention it in my FA journal.
I believe I created four Starfox stories, two of which were published in Entropy Tales: "Sweet Sixteen" and "Flying." "Sixteen" was first published in John Cawley's Foxhole fanzine, and I think "Flying" was reprinted in Rowrbrazzle. There was also a third story, "The Tiger," and another story I started but never finished (kind of an "origin" story).
To answer your other question, I have thought about resurrecting Jen and the crew in an on-line format. In fact, that's something I've been trying to work on over the last year or so. The problem, as always, is finding both the time and inspiration to work on it. If it ever happens, I'll be sure to mention it in my FA journal.
Wait a minute... that wouldn't be somethig called... um... "Equinox" or something. I seem to recall a comic that might fit this description, but I can't place the name right away. Maybe I'll look for it later. In any case, 'nuff said. Let's see if Tim has anything to add at this point.
I thought for sure I had seen the Flying story elsewhere, but I forgot where. this is where Tim got the inspiration for the Aluminum Sparrowhawk picture, I think...
If you post Jen's story, I will read it, because I lost the original in a storage locker fire in '96.
Old guy, Old comics. oh what a wasted life I have led. (kidding)
If you post Jen's story, I will read it, because I lost the original in a storage locker fire in '96.
Old guy, Old comics. oh what a wasted life I have led. (kidding)
Heh--The Comic Book Guy is one of the best characters on The Simpsons.
Actually, the Aluminum Sparrowhawk was inspired by TallyHawk, from the animated series Silverhawks. He's featured in a similarly-titled piece called Flight, which you can see in my FA "Scraps" collection.
As for Entropy Tales, you can still find copies on-line. In fact, Mile High Comics in Denver has all four issues (my work is featured in #1 and #2):
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=29552871634&snumber=1
Otherwise, drop me a private note and I'll see if I can't scare up an extra copy of #2.
Actually, the Aluminum Sparrowhawk was inspired by TallyHawk, from the animated series Silverhawks. He's featured in a similarly-titled piece called Flight, which you can see in my FA "Scraps" collection.
As for Entropy Tales, you can still find copies on-line. In fact, Mile High Comics in Denver has all four issues (my work is featured in #1 and #2):
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=list&title=29552871634&snumber=1
Otherwise, drop me a private note and I'll see if I can't scare up an extra copy of #2.
There are coffee mugs with a clear plastic outside sleeve, and a removable inner container. You slip the image you want between them and close it up. I have one, and it seems watertight. I don't know that I'd want to submerge it in water though, just wash out the inside and sponge down the outside.
There are also places that will transfer an image on a coffee cup. I knew someone who had one who took it to furry cons, but the name escapes me. That's a bit pricey, since it only does one at a time.
There are also places that will transfer an image on a coffee cup. I knew someone who had one who took it to furry cons, but the name escapes me. That's a bit pricey, since it only does one at a time.
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