Thanks for all the suggestions on the first version of this blueprint!
I squished the laundry & antechamber to make a cushy downstairs toilet, and an extra room for Dee. I wanted to save the other rooms for other guests/stuff, and hiding behind the stairs seems like a good spot for an antisocial demon :P
I joined the upstairs toilet with the bathroom, but added a sliding door for added privacy/stink containment. Of course, this means technically there's now a toilet dangling right above the head of Dee's bed if the floor ever got busted up, but I'm sure he doesn't really give a damn about that sort of problem.
The big downstairs area is now technically a combined dining & living room now that I plonked the table in there, and the kitchen is also now much more open thanks to a suggestion about a bar. I could even put in some stools for maximum TV seating capacity :3
Now the only thing left to do is figure out the layout for the kitchen, and probably fill in the empty area in the dining room with something interesting. Bookcases or something, right? Technically I'll need to put something in the 4 spare rooms eventually, but those can wait for now. And I haven't added windows either, but I also don't have anything outside mapped out either :P
Like the last one, feel free to suggest more tweaks ;)
I squished the laundry & antechamber to make a cushy downstairs toilet, and an extra room for Dee. I wanted to save the other rooms for other guests/stuff, and hiding behind the stairs seems like a good spot for an antisocial demon :P
I joined the upstairs toilet with the bathroom, but added a sliding door for added privacy/stink containment. Of course, this means technically there's now a toilet dangling right above the head of Dee's bed if the floor ever got busted up, but I'm sure he doesn't really give a damn about that sort of problem.
The big downstairs area is now technically a combined dining & living room now that I plonked the table in there, and the kitchen is also now much more open thanks to a suggestion about a bar. I could even put in some stools for maximum TV seating capacity :3
Now the only thing left to do is figure out the layout for the kitchen, and probably fill in the empty area in the dining room with something interesting. Bookcases or something, right? Technically I'll need to put something in the 4 spare rooms eventually, but those can wait for now. And I haven't added windows either, but I also don't have anything outside mapped out either :P
Like the last one, feel free to suggest more tweaks ;)
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I've never had a dining table where at least two of the chairs weren't rendered inoperable by miscellaneous piles of junk :P
I might bump it up about half a block... but for comedic purposes, awkward chair placement might be considered a boon! Although now that I think about it, I forgot to account for the possible extra space needed to make room for tails... :3
I might bump it up about half a block... but for comedic purposes, awkward chair placement might be considered a boon! Although now that I think about it, I forgot to account for the possible extra space needed to make room for tails... :3
That is a frustrating amount of unexplained vagueness there.
I don't really understand how the entrance can be "badly placed" or "unclear" when the outside of the house literally does not even exist yet. Literally, this house currently exists as a bunch of windowless rooms floating in a white void. The front door doesn't even have a context in which it will exist yet. How can it be that horrible already?
And what is "that"? I feel like Hiccup saying "you just gestured to all of me". There's no units of size for walls or floors in regards to fitting pipes or drainage in there, and at least I grouped most of the stuff needing pipes in one central location. The worst faux pas I can spot is trying to cram a sliding door into the same wall as the bathtub pipes, but again, did not indicate any wall or door thickness anywhere. What is so egregious that it deserves a capital "NOT"?
I don't really understand how the entrance can be "badly placed" or "unclear" when the outside of the house literally does not even exist yet. Literally, this house currently exists as a bunch of windowless rooms floating in a white void. The front door doesn't even have a context in which it will exist yet. How can it be that horrible already?
And what is "that"? I feel like Hiccup saying "you just gestured to all of me". There's no units of size for walls or floors in regards to fitting pipes or drainage in there, and at least I grouped most of the stuff needing pipes in one central location. The worst faux pas I can spot is trying to cram a sliding door into the same wall as the bathtub pipes, but again, did not indicate any wall or door thickness anywhere. What is so egregious that it deserves a capital "NOT"?
The vagueness is because I could spend hours explaining this, not to mention visual aids. So let me attempt to explain this with just text. Be warned, you've steeped into my world now.
Let's start with the entrance. The entry to a building can be expressed in several ways. The first and most obvious is placing it dead center in the building. It's an obvious place where everyone will look and know how to enter. It's common, simple, and everyone knows it. You can place the entrance off center if you don't want visitors, but that's a bit advanced. The second way to express entrance is to push or pull it. If you push it in, you create a void and peoples eyes are drawn to it on a solid wall. For residential, this is usually achieved by pushing the space around the door back to create a small void in an exterior wall. You could also pull the entrance out to create a solid and emphasize it that way. It's more obvious that way and you could play a few games with it. Something people like to do is make a solid a bit off center (about 10') and place the door on its side so they can have a nice foyer and put a porch leading up to the door. Porches are coming into style, so that's a nice selling point. If you don't feel comfortable bringing someone you just met all the way into your house, you can invite them to your porch. It's much less formal, and makes it very easy to be friendly and hospitable to your neighbors. Pay attention next time you're around buildings, look at how solids and voids are used to indicate the entrance. You'll start to notice patterns with the use of solids and voids and how they make points the architects want to make.
The bathrooms can't be that narrow. In order to actually use it you need to be at least 3' preferably 5' wide just to use it. A typical half bath like the one on the first floor is between 4-5' by 4-5'. In the master bath, switch the locations of the toilet and the bath tub and you don't need a shower and a regular tub in the same bathroom. Also the laundry chute can't be directly above the washer and dryer. Speaking of witch, the laundry\mud room is typically the garage\side entrance to reduce tracking mud through carpeted parts of the house. Typically the kitchen, laundry room and bathrooms are grouped together to save pluming distance.
The bedrooms are oddly placed as well. You want privacy in the bedroom, so you don't place it on the front on the ground floor. You should place them on the upper floors wherever possible, and no on the front wall of the ground floor. Though in all honesty, I have no idea what's supost to be the front here. Or how to spell.
The kitchen looks OK, I think. The kitchen is always on the back so that parents can cook dinner and watch kids play so they don't kill each other.
That should answer your questions. It may read fast, put there's a lot of content in it.
Let's start with the entrance. The entry to a building can be expressed in several ways. The first and most obvious is placing it dead center in the building. It's an obvious place where everyone will look and know how to enter. It's common, simple, and everyone knows it. You can place the entrance off center if you don't want visitors, but that's a bit advanced. The second way to express entrance is to push or pull it. If you push it in, you create a void and peoples eyes are drawn to it on a solid wall. For residential, this is usually achieved by pushing the space around the door back to create a small void in an exterior wall. You could also pull the entrance out to create a solid and emphasize it that way. It's more obvious that way and you could play a few games with it. Something people like to do is make a solid a bit off center (about 10') and place the door on its side so they can have a nice foyer and put a porch leading up to the door. Porches are coming into style, so that's a nice selling point. If you don't feel comfortable bringing someone you just met all the way into your house, you can invite them to your porch. It's much less formal, and makes it very easy to be friendly and hospitable to your neighbors. Pay attention next time you're around buildings, look at how solids and voids are used to indicate the entrance. You'll start to notice patterns with the use of solids and voids and how they make points the architects want to make.
The bathrooms can't be that narrow. In order to actually use it you need to be at least 3' preferably 5' wide just to use it. A typical half bath like the one on the first floor is between 4-5' by 4-5'. In the master bath, switch the locations of the toilet and the bath tub and you don't need a shower and a regular tub in the same bathroom. Also the laundry chute can't be directly above the washer and dryer. Speaking of witch, the laundry\mud room is typically the garage\side entrance to reduce tracking mud through carpeted parts of the house. Typically the kitchen, laundry room and bathrooms are grouped together to save pluming distance.
The bedrooms are oddly placed as well. You want privacy in the bedroom, so you don't place it on the front on the ground floor. You should place them on the upper floors wherever possible, and no on the front wall of the ground floor. Though in all honesty, I have no idea what's supost to be the front here. Or how to spell.
The kitchen looks OK, I think. The kitchen is always on the back so that parents can cook dinner and watch kids play so they don't kill each other.
That should answer your questions. It may read fast, put there's a lot of content in it.
Okay, so keep in mind that while I might be designing it, it's more of an idealised apartment building rather than a dream home. So canonically it was designed by someone else to fit into a block of apartment buildings, and then bought by my character afterwards.
For example, the downstairs room probably wasn't intended by the original designer as a bedroom, it was populated after the fact by a roommate so lazy they refuse to use one of the many upstairs rooms. He probably would consider it a compliment that his bedroom is in the wrong place :P
That "half bath" is actually just a laundry sink, I put that in because I've yet to see a real laundry without a sink for miscellaneous washing. The dryer and laundry chute is honestly a mistake, the dryer could probably be moved somewhere vertically out of the way. It was just a bit tricky to indicate verticality in an overhead blueprint so I just kinda rushed that part.
As for the front door.. well, as I said it's not exactly a dream home. I've been toying with the idea of putting other apartments connected directly to the left & right of it (top & bottom of the blueprint). One amongst a whole street, like an English town house or something. I guess I could shift the antechamber up to the middle and turn it into an entrance hall...
For example, the downstairs room probably wasn't intended by the original designer as a bedroom, it was populated after the fact by a roommate so lazy they refuse to use one of the many upstairs rooms. He probably would consider it a compliment that his bedroom is in the wrong place :P
That "half bath" is actually just a laundry sink, I put that in because I've yet to see a real laundry without a sink for miscellaneous washing. The dryer and laundry chute is honestly a mistake, the dryer could probably be moved somewhere vertically out of the way. It was just a bit tricky to indicate verticality in an overhead blueprint so I just kinda rushed that part.
As for the front door.. well, as I said it's not exactly a dream home. I've been toying with the idea of putting other apartments connected directly to the left & right of it (top & bottom of the blueprint). One amongst a whole street, like an English town house or something. I guess I could shift the antechamber up to the middle and turn it into an entrance hall...
Apologies, I just found out from another commenter what a "half bath" is. It sure is a weird name for a toilet + sink, I hadn't heard it before now. In that case I'll probably have to change it to be "up to code". It's probably in a miscellaneous furry universe/country, but they probably have building codes of some sort there too :V
Putting a door between the toilet (and possibly the shower/tub) and the rest of the bathroom is actually a fairly common feature- in upscale homes. It allows two people to use the bathroom at once while maintaining privacy. And yes, does help to contain some of the smell.
I would change the position of the front door to be against the wall shared by the kitchen and current living room-area. I would then switch the positions of the living furniture with the dining furniture so that the dining furniture is closer to the kitchen. The downstairs half-bath is definitely not-to-code- is that downstairs unmarked room being used for anything? I would move the laundry room into there, turn the current laundry room into a full bath with a shower or shower-tub combo, and the current down-stairs half-bath into closet space for the downstairs bedroom.
The upstairs is ok but a little weird. I would sort of reverse the orientation of the walls and switch up the position of the Master bath and master bed and re-position the laundry chute, but I'm not certain I can explain how without drawing it up.
The upstairs is ok but a little weird. I would sort of reverse the orientation of the walls and switch up the position of the Master bath and master bed and re-position the laundry chute, but I'm not certain I can explain how without drawing it up.
The front door is still a bit nebulous it seems, especially with the outside still undecided. I was thinking it was an apartment building in a packed street, with very little space to either side (top & bottom). But maybe I should rethink the orientation for the building... hmm...
Don't worry that's not a half-bath (what's a half-bath?), it's just a sink / bench. Yknow, for washing stuff that the washing machine can't ;) The laundry is there so that it's positioned under the second floor bathroom, for ease of plumbing and the laundry chute. A second bathroom might be a bit too luxurious for the apartment building setting I had in mind.
Don't worry that's not a half-bath (what's a half-bath?), it's just a sink / bench. Yknow, for washing stuff that the washing machine can't ;) The laundry is there so that it's positioned under the second floor bathroom, for ease of plumbing and the laundry chute. A second bathroom might be a bit too luxurious for the apartment building setting I had in mind.
The room with the sink/toilet combo in the downstairs (between Dee's room and the laundry room) is referred to in architectural/real-estate jargon as a 'half-bath'. I don't know if you live in the U.S., but here the ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) mandates certain construction codes regarding how bathrooms can be built. Namely, they have to be big enough for people with wheelchairs to turn around in. Unless this building was constructed before 1990, and possibly even before that if someone sued the builder/owner, it will comply with the ADA. As is the current half-bath is definitely not code-compliant.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that in some locales in order to market a house/apartment as having so and so many bedrooms, every room to be counted as a bedroom has to have a closet attached. Doesn't have to be a walk-in closet, but there does have to be a closet.
Re, the laundry chute, if you bump the wall from the downstairs unused backroom down into the kitchen so it extends under the hallway, make that room the laundry room, then switch the position of Kree's bedroom (the master bedroom) to the other side of the house (below the upstairs bathroom), you can put the chute at the end of the hallway. This is a bit more sensible, as it allows other residents of the house to use the chute if someone is in the bathroom.
If you're worried about making the house too luxurious, I'm afraid you've already gone past that point- as it is, with my alterations (and maybe another bathroom) I would tag this as a $300,000 middle-class 4-5 person family home, MINIMUM. If you're aiming for something a bit more humble and working class, you may want something with far less rooms and no second story, and a more compact design.
Also worth mentioning is the fact that in some locales in order to market a house/apartment as having so and so many bedrooms, every room to be counted as a bedroom has to have a closet attached. Doesn't have to be a walk-in closet, but there does have to be a closet.
Re, the laundry chute, if you bump the wall from the downstairs unused backroom down into the kitchen so it extends under the hallway, make that room the laundry room, then switch the position of Kree's bedroom (the master bedroom) to the other side of the house (below the upstairs bathroom), you can put the chute at the end of the hallway. This is a bit more sensible, as it allows other residents of the house to use the chute if someone is in the bathroom.
If you're worried about making the house too luxurious, I'm afraid you've already gone past that point- as it is, with my alterations (and maybe another bathroom) I would tag this as a $300,000 middle-class 4-5 person family home, MINIMUM. If you're aiming for something a bit more humble and working class, you may want something with far less rooms and no second story, and a more compact design.
Ohhh, so that's what a "half-bath" is, what a weird name! I live in Australia so we probably don't use the term much here or something. The apartment itself exists in some miscellaneous furry universe/country, so they probably don't have the same building codes, although they probably have something similar. I guess it looks like I need to do some serious rearrangement that right side of the ground floor.
Yes closets, I must stop dragging my feet and put those in, even if Kree barely owns a handful of clothes :P
I feel reluctant moving Kree's room or the bathroom, only because I have a mental image of Kree's room being across a bannister-sided hallway from it. Which has lead to the accidental situation where I've now created a "master bedroom" opposite from the bathroom. Maybe I can bump up one of the other rooms to make them the master.
The chute was more of a neat afterthought, it's probably not that necessary to move it out of the bathroom.
As for the luxuriousness, maybe I should just give up the idea of an apartment building and make it into a full blown house...
Yes closets, I must stop dragging my feet and put those in, even if Kree barely owns a handful of clothes :P
I feel reluctant moving Kree's room or the bathroom, only because I have a mental image of Kree's room being across a bannister-sided hallway from it. Which has lead to the accidental situation where I've now created a "master bedroom" opposite from the bathroom. Maybe I can bump up one of the other rooms to make them the master.
The chute was more of a neat afterthought, it's probably not that necessary to move it out of the bathroom.
As for the luxuriousness, maybe I should just give up the idea of an apartment building and make it into a full blown house...
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