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You have excellent tastes! This is an old picture that has probably been stolen by the internet numerous times since I originally uploaded it elsewhere on a public gallery, but here is a pinup :) http://www.furaffinity.net/view/13349398/
Oh very nice. A tip though: as soon as your barrel is worn out, look at some alternative caliber options, you should be able to gain a few hundred meters (and some accuracy) by switching to a 6.5 (6.5 Creedmoor, 6.5x47 Lapua, .260 Remington), 7 (7-08) or 6 mm (6 Creedmoor, 6XC) :3
Also, I've heard incredible things about Proof Research, although they're extremely expensive (their barrels start at $900).
And ISMS <3 can't not like that thing xD
I'd put Nightforces and Marches in mine, though :P
Also, I've heard incredible things about Proof Research, although they're extremely expensive (their barrels start at $900).
And ISMS <3 can't not like that thing xD
I'd put Nightforces and Marches in mine, though :P
I'm super happy with the cost, availability, and performance of .308 right now. Besides, with an average life of 9000-10000 rounds before accuracy starts to fall, that's well over $20k in match ammo cost before the barrel even needs changing, and it shoots about 3/8MOA, something I can't remotely do on a consistent basis. TRGs don't leave the factory unless they can group under 1/2 with commercial match ammunition. Going with another similar, newer caliber won't really give me a notable jump in accuracy, and increase costs because I don't reload. The 168 grain HPBT is a very mature and predictable round that is mild on barrel erosion. .260 Remington is pretty attractive though! That's once thing I like about the Accuracy International with the user-friendly barrel changes, but I just don't need a multi-caliber short action platform.
The only real benefits to me is a flatter trajectory and lower ballistic coefficient which makes it less succeptible to wind with lower drop at extended range, but honestly I much prefer dealing with the challenge of shooting with environmental factors as I don't compete and don't need that edge. It's the same enjoyment I find shooting 22lr at ranges of 200-300 yards because it's so succeptible to wind.
I am not sure what the ISMS is. I'm currently using Hensoldt, which is a division of Carl Zeiss, which competes with Schmidt & Bender.
The only real benefits to me is a flatter trajectory and lower ballistic coefficient which makes it less succeptible to wind with lower drop at extended range, but honestly I much prefer dealing with the challenge of shooting with environmental factors as I don't compete and don't need that edge. It's the same enjoyment I find shooting 22lr at ranges of 200-300 yards because it's so succeptible to wind.
I am not sure what the ISMS is. I'm currently using Hensoldt, which is a division of Carl Zeiss, which competes with Schmidt & Bender.
Fair enough, I want to go ELR, so I'd need that edge, yet I'd still want to shoot at the cartridge's limit. So about 4000 yards for the .375 VM2 I want as well :P
And I'll have to reload, all my "main" caliber choices (6XC, 7SAUM, .338 Edge +P and .375 VM2) are rare or wildcats xD
And if you go factory with easy barrel changes, go SRS :3
Anyway, the ISMS is the Ideal Scope Mount System by Spuhr. And I'd mostly pick NF and March for my rifles because I'm a Nightforce fan, and March makes extreme magnification range optics that would really help in competition and at the ranges I want to shoot the .375 at. x3
My rifles would be focused on extreme range performance more than durability, though (I won't need that much durability, I assume I won't get shot at while using them xD). And they'd be expensive. Lemme note you with the concepts :3
And I'll have to reload, all my "main" caliber choices (6XC, 7SAUM, .338 Edge +P and .375 VM2) are rare or wildcats xD
And if you go factory with easy barrel changes, go SRS :3
Anyway, the ISMS is the Ideal Scope Mount System by Spuhr. And I'd mostly pick NF and March for my rifles because I'm a Nightforce fan, and March makes extreme magnification range optics that would really help in competition and at the ranges I want to shoot the .375 at. x3
My rifles would be focused on extreme range performance more than durability, though (I won't need that much durability, I assume I won't get shot at while using them xD). And they'd be expensive. Lemme note you with the concepts :3
Feel free to note me!
I haven't gotten the chance to try the DTA SRS but I'm not a big fan of sticking rails on everything for a precision rifle. The owner of DTA based the SRS on the DSR-1 in his collection, but without the weird bulk that Germans love to add to their guns (my Hensoldt is sooo heavy!). It is certainly easier to buy three barrels/bolts to get three calibers on the SRS versus buying three guns and three optics. There's nowhere near me over 500m though so a large caliber rifle would be a waste.
I find the new AI AX kind of ugly compared to the AW! Rails make sense on a carbine but I don't see much need to have rails hanging off the sides and bottom of a precision rifle because you aren't mounting lights or lasers.
I forgot the Spuhr model names! I bought mine directly from the owner who participates on one of the precision forums after giving him my ring diameter and Sako-specific receiver dovetail mount and desired cant. I'm just lazy. If I wanted to go beyond 800m, I would buy something in .338 laupa, and beyond that the .408.cheytac since I am too lazy to develop my own data and prefer calibers with military field use since there's lots more data out there.
That's nothing against ultra precision and benchrest shooting. Mine is set up for field use with a 4-16x and even that is overkill. I am almost never over 10-12x and I probably should have picked a 4-12x to shave weight.
I haven't gotten the chance to try the DTA SRS but I'm not a big fan of sticking rails on everything for a precision rifle. The owner of DTA based the SRS on the DSR-1 in his collection, but without the weird bulk that Germans love to add to their guns (my Hensoldt is sooo heavy!). It is certainly easier to buy three barrels/bolts to get three calibers on the SRS versus buying three guns and three optics. There's nowhere near me over 500m though so a large caliber rifle would be a waste.
I find the new AI AX kind of ugly compared to the AW! Rails make sense on a carbine but I don't see much need to have rails hanging off the sides and bottom of a precision rifle because you aren't mounting lights or lasers.
I forgot the Spuhr model names! I bought mine directly from the owner who participates on one of the precision forums after giving him my ring diameter and Sako-specific receiver dovetail mount and desired cant. I'm just lazy. If I wanted to go beyond 800m, I would buy something in .338 laupa, and beyond that the .408.cheytac since I am too lazy to develop my own data and prefer calibers with military field use since there's lots more data out there.
That's nothing against ultra precision and benchrest shooting. Mine is set up for field use with a 4-16x and even that is overkill. I am almost never over 10-12x and I probably should have picked a 4-12x to shave weight.
Done xD
I suppose, but the DTA rifles aren't too bad, or so I heard. Precision rifles do benefit from rails, but mostly for clip on night vision sights. And some infrared illuminators are useful on long range rifles, like the SPIR.
And I dislike the looks of all AI rifles, tbh xD
Then at least go .375 CheyTac! It has proven itself superior in every regard!
I'm not a huge benchrest fan, I'd probably go more F class and tactical sniper stuff, but it's probably fun :3
I suppose, but the DTA rifles aren't too bad, or so I heard. Precision rifles do benefit from rails, but mostly for clip on night vision sights. And some infrared illuminators are useful on long range rifles, like the SPIR.
And I dislike the looks of all AI rifles, tbh xD
Then at least go .375 CheyTac! It has proven itself superior in every regard!
I'm not a huge benchrest fan, I'd probably go more F class and tactical sniper stuff, but it's probably fun :3
The DTA's line of SRS firearms are fantastic. The owner of DTA used to post on one of the forums and he reverse engineered the Amp Technical DSR-1 in his collection, and got rid of all the uncessary bits. Many people who are financially able to usually have at least one AI and Sako at one point in time, and have also tried the DTA. Some go back to AI/Sako while others go to the DTA after owning them all. They have a very good trigger for a bullpup design too. Bullpup trigger linkages are usually rubbish.
If you actually have the facilities to use all three calibers, DTA is a good deal (good deal being relative, because any high-end precision rifle setup is usually around $10k) because buying the bolt/barrel kits for both short and magnum calibers is cheaper than buying a new firearm, and you can use one optic. You're looking at about $3k for the chassis itself and $2k per caliber change, and the typical family of .308, .300WM, and .338LM puts you at roughly $10k. A good optic and suppressor and you're at $15k with miscellaneous options, taxes, etc. Doing it with three similar firearms would run you about $30k.
The rail-mounted IR illuminator you linked to by Laser Devices (I used to own their DBAL) has a 90 degree mount so you can mount it on top :) Pretty much any NVG/NOD/FLIR will be in-line with the main optic so a top rail is critical, but the rest is fluff. The reason why precision rifles in the last 5 years have come out with AR-style quad rails is because the US military had an open SOCOM PSR contract that required the option of bolt-on side rails. This is why Accuracy International came up with the AX, Remington with the MSR, and Sako TRG M10. It was to compete for this contract. With that, many other firearm companies started using this design simply because trends be trends.
.375 Cheytac might be superior but its $150/20 rounds. Barrel life would be rubbish too. This is my personal philosophy, but I don't own a precision rifle over .308 because there's simply no facilities here to make use of such a caliber. It would be wasteful for me to shoot something like that at 100m or even 1000m as it is a 2000m+ caliber. I feel like it is me buying a Ferrari and not ever being able to use it to it's potential.
The AIs look ugly, but I feel confident saying they are the world's most reliable and rugged sniper platform with 30+ years of proven service in dozens of militaries. Almost nothing on the design has changed. You can pull a bolt out of an AW made yesterday and drop it into an AW made in 1985 without having to check headspacing. One of the instructors at a precision rifle facility here has over 100,000 logged rounds in his AW .308. 10+ barrel changes from the barrels wearing out, but it's only broken one minor part (the bolt stop spring) which did not adversely affect the functionality of the rifle. They are like the Glock of precision rifles. AI was on my buy list but the importer had none in stock, and they priced matched a Sako from another dealer who was selling them for $1000 off because they couldn't sell the things.
If you actually have the facilities to use all three calibers, DTA is a good deal (good deal being relative, because any high-end precision rifle setup is usually around $10k) because buying the bolt/barrel kits for both short and magnum calibers is cheaper than buying a new firearm, and you can use one optic. You're looking at about $3k for the chassis itself and $2k per caliber change, and the typical family of .308, .300WM, and .338LM puts you at roughly $10k. A good optic and suppressor and you're at $15k with miscellaneous options, taxes, etc. Doing it with three similar firearms would run you about $30k.
The rail-mounted IR illuminator you linked to by Laser Devices (I used to own their DBAL) has a 90 degree mount so you can mount it on top :) Pretty much any NVG/NOD/FLIR will be in-line with the main optic so a top rail is critical, but the rest is fluff. The reason why precision rifles in the last 5 years have come out with AR-style quad rails is because the US military had an open SOCOM PSR contract that required the option of bolt-on side rails. This is why Accuracy International came up with the AX, Remington with the MSR, and Sako TRG M10. It was to compete for this contract. With that, many other firearm companies started using this design simply because trends be trends.
.375 Cheytac might be superior but its $150/20 rounds. Barrel life would be rubbish too. This is my personal philosophy, but I don't own a precision rifle over .308 because there's simply no facilities here to make use of such a caliber. It would be wasteful for me to shoot something like that at 100m or even 1000m as it is a 2000m+ caliber. I feel like it is me buying a Ferrari and not ever being able to use it to it's potential.
The AIs look ugly, but I feel confident saying they are the world's most reliable and rugged sniper platform with 30+ years of proven service in dozens of militaries. Almost nothing on the design has changed. You can pull a bolt out of an AW made yesterday and drop it into an AW made in 1985 without having to check headspacing. One of the instructors at a precision rifle facility here has over 100,000 logged rounds in his AW .308. 10+ barrel changes from the barrels wearing out, but it's only broken one minor part (the bolt stop spring) which did not adversely affect the functionality of the rifle. They are like the Glock of precision rifles. AI was on my buy list but the importer had none in stock, and they priced matched a Sako from another dealer who was selling them for $1000 off because they couldn't sell the things.
I've heard plenty of success stories about DT (they changed their name a while ago XD), I follow the DT thread on Sniper's Hide :P
That's the only factory precision rifle I'd ever get, I think. Nothing against Sako, I'm just not a huge fan of factory rifles xD
Oh, yay, no need for side rails :D
Actually, .375 CheyTac is cheaper to fire than .408 CheyTac, since the bullets are more common, you can find plenty of high end bullet manufacturers that make .375 solids or other forms of match grade bullets, and not that many for .408. And they have incredibly high ballistic coefficients, the 377 grain CE has a G1 BC of about .95, and the 425 grain CE has about 1.03, though 425 grains may be a bit much for the standard CheyTac case. And barrel life seems to be fine, it's not exactly a 7mm Boo Boo or 6.5x284 :P
That is a very nice deal then :o
And I'm a SIG fan, not a Glock fan :P
(Why? Probably because I love Switzerland XD)
That's the only factory precision rifle I'd ever get, I think. Nothing against Sako, I'm just not a huge fan of factory rifles xD
Oh, yay, no need for side rails :D
Actually, .375 CheyTac is cheaper to fire than .408 CheyTac, since the bullets are more common, you can find plenty of high end bullet manufacturers that make .375 solids or other forms of match grade bullets, and not that many for .408. And they have incredibly high ballistic coefficients, the 377 grain CE has a G1 BC of about .95, and the 425 grain CE has about 1.03, though 425 grains may be a bit much for the standard CheyTac case. And barrel life seems to be fine, it's not exactly a 7mm Boo Boo or 6.5x284 :P
That is a very nice deal then :o
And I'm a SIG fan, not a Glock fan :P
(Why? Probably because I love Switzerland XD)
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