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Life's A Chibi: Competitive Ass
Its been a while since I've posted a "Life's A Chibi". I had this image in my sketch book for a while and now I just finished coloring it. I did this image after playing some fighting games online as well as watching youtube videos of video game tournaments, seeing how some people react when either winning or losing. Video game tournaments is like a small subculture where if you can't handle the way people act and treat you ( can't handle the heat ), you shouldn't bother joining and expect to be chewed out if you lose.I guess you can say I did this image out of mild frustration due to the rant I posted. Sometimes I play and watch competitive video games tournaments ( mostly fighting ) on youtube. It's surprising how boastful and insulting the winners can be towards the losing player(s) and how frustrated/violent the losers can be.
Some games I've play online have live chats turned on while doing the match. All I could hear on the other side of the receiver is trash talking and unnecessary insults coming from the victor. No "Good Game" or "Nice Match" or any kind compliment ever came from most of the winner's I've played online. It made me think about how their life is like when they are not playing video games. Even in online matches that don't have live chat feeds, you can still know when the winner is being bragging by how he plays his character near the end of the fight by the way he plays.
During my years at working in a video game store in downtown Boston with live public consoles for people to play, whenever I see someone playing a video game in a group or competitively, whether its a fighting game or racing game or even a sports game, the amount of trash talk, insults, frustration and soon vulgar fighting shouldn't exist. It gets to the point where they bring real "tournament" outside and see who will bleed first in a fist fight. During my time there, I've noticed different types of "bragging" competitive victors:
The Charismatic Know it All type: To the "charismatic" players, who thinks they know everything, thinks that the other player is just a challenger that needed to put in his place. When those charismatic player's win, is a long stream of sighs, disapproving shaking of the head, "you should have done this and that", "you can't play", "you are a waste of my time", etc.
The Loud yelling and Dancing type: Is much like the Charismatic type except he doesn't restrain himself from his victory over a simple match. Yet he dancing, yells in your face, how he brags that he is a tournament champion from a distant land, and tries to crush any sense of pride and respect you have.
The Silently Insulting type: The Silent winners are those who uses their gameplay as a way to insult you by trolling, giving you no wiggle room to do anything, taunts in game, and when the game is over he doesn't acknowledge your presents and shrugs/shoos you off without any respect and/or talks trash under his breath.
In that small store, these players get a reputation on being a skilled-asshole player. Me being the one who lost to such players over a period of times and hearing them talk on and on about how bad I was, I couldn't help but feel sad for that player. If he treats people who are not as good as him in something that bad, what about other people around him, even friends and family.
"...the winner should not act like a bragging ass." Some people would argue against this. In any competitive game/match, the winner has the right to boast and brag all he wants about his triumphant victory. Different people celebrate in different ways. Seeing how they react to a victory shows the type of person they are inside:
- the kind player who shakes hands with you and says two simple words "Thank you", "Good Game", "Nice Match", "Awesome Skills", etc. and maybe wishes to play you again in a friendly match.
- or the kind that tries to make you break by throwing insults at you and treating you like your defeat doesn't matter.
In heated crowded tournaments, one needs to be loud and try to steal the spot light from another. Its part of the atmosphere. Some can't help but slide to that level, and others use it as an excuse to be an asshole.
If you are ever against a players who boasts and brags about his victory over you and/or talks trash to you, it is best to take a deep breath, stay calm and remain quiet. Your hurt reaction aids their right to continue to be an ass. Don't Feed The Troll! Remember that there can't be a winner without a loser and even the LOSERS are WINNERS. How so? You gain KNOWLEDGE. Whenever you lose to someone who is better than you at a game, you learn from your mistake and continue onward to try to get better. Some winners don't bother increasing their skills since they think that they are at the top of the mountain. Or if you want to have a good laugh, think of the bragging winner as a clown performer, trying to give you a show on how stupid one could be. Its like watching a cartoon gag.
All in all: BE THE BETTER WINNER! Show respect to the one who loses. Your simple kind act and gesture shows that you think of others around you and know that they are just as important in your victory as your own skills.
artwork © 2013 Alex Cockburn
Some games I've play online have live chats turned on while doing the match. All I could hear on the other side of the receiver is trash talking and unnecessary insults coming from the victor. No "Good Game" or "Nice Match" or any kind compliment ever came from most of the winner's I've played online. It made me think about how their life is like when they are not playing video games. Even in online matches that don't have live chat feeds, you can still know when the winner is being bragging by how he plays his character near the end of the fight by the way he plays.
During my years at working in a video game store in downtown Boston with live public consoles for people to play, whenever I see someone playing a video game in a group or competitively, whether its a fighting game or racing game or even a sports game, the amount of trash talk, insults, frustration and soon vulgar fighting shouldn't exist. It gets to the point where they bring real "tournament" outside and see who will bleed first in a fist fight. During my time there, I've noticed different types of "bragging" competitive victors:
The Charismatic Know it All type: To the "charismatic" players, who thinks they know everything, thinks that the other player is just a challenger that needed to put in his place. When those charismatic player's win, is a long stream of sighs, disapproving shaking of the head, "you should have done this and that", "you can't play", "you are a waste of my time", etc.
The Loud yelling and Dancing type: Is much like the Charismatic type except he doesn't restrain himself from his victory over a simple match. Yet he dancing, yells in your face, how he brags that he is a tournament champion from a distant land, and tries to crush any sense of pride and respect you have.
The Silently Insulting type: The Silent winners are those who uses their gameplay as a way to insult you by trolling, giving you no wiggle room to do anything, taunts in game, and when the game is over he doesn't acknowledge your presents and shrugs/shoos you off without any respect and/or talks trash under his breath.
In that small store, these players get a reputation on being a skilled-asshole player. Me being the one who lost to such players over a period of times and hearing them talk on and on about how bad I was, I couldn't help but feel sad for that player. If he treats people who are not as good as him in something that bad, what about other people around him, even friends and family.
"...the winner should not act like a bragging ass." Some people would argue against this. In any competitive game/match, the winner has the right to boast and brag all he wants about his triumphant victory. Different people celebrate in different ways. Seeing how they react to a victory shows the type of person they are inside:
- the kind player who shakes hands with you and says two simple words "Thank you", "Good Game", "Nice Match", "Awesome Skills", etc. and maybe wishes to play you again in a friendly match.
- or the kind that tries to make you break by throwing insults at you and treating you like your defeat doesn't matter.
In heated crowded tournaments, one needs to be loud and try to steal the spot light from another. Its part of the atmosphere. Some can't help but slide to that level, and others use it as an excuse to be an asshole.
If you are ever against a players who boasts and brags about his victory over you and/or talks trash to you, it is best to take a deep breath, stay calm and remain quiet. Your hurt reaction aids their right to continue to be an ass. Don't Feed The Troll! Remember that there can't be a winner without a loser and even the LOSERS are WINNERS. How so? You gain KNOWLEDGE. Whenever you lose to someone who is better than you at a game, you learn from your mistake and continue onward to try to get better. Some winners don't bother increasing their skills since they think that they are at the top of the mountain. Or if you want to have a good laugh, think of the bragging winner as a clown performer, trying to give you a show on how stupid one could be. Its like watching a cartoon gag.
All in all: BE THE BETTER WINNER! Show respect to the one who loses. Your simple kind act and gesture shows that you think of others around you and know that they are just as important in your victory as your own skills.
artwork © 2013 Alex Cockburn
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I hate those type of people, yeah you should take pride in your victory, but to tear down someone else just because they lost? That's the definition of not cool. Not only must you accept losses with dignity and grace but you must also handle victory the same way.
This was very well put together and I completely agree with you on all of it.
This was very well put together and I completely agree with you on all of it.
*claps* Well spoken Sir. I see your point and i agree with it. I have to admit that I had a few wins where i celebrated enthusiastic. But i did it without chat. just for myself. Yes I do sometimes brag about my teammates..but mostly when we lost and when this lose was cause of more then just lil mistakes but by plain stupidity. And my personal advice to all online gamers...don't take it seriously.. its just a game. Soometimes you win sometimes you lose.. winning all the time is not going to happen. Amen.
Cute Picture by the way :P
Cute Picture by the way :P
This even goes into 'professional gaming'. For those not familiar with Starcraft 2, let me tell you the tale of a competitive ass named IdrA
This guy had mad skills. He played Zerg, the most micro-intensive race in the game, and had some truly amazing micro and macro skills. He -never- missed an inject, even while in the middle of combat. His creep spread was amazing. He was easily one of the best players around.
And he was a complete ass. Not just to his opponents, to whom he was exceedingly derisive and derogatory (yea, this guy's an idiot... f**kin' noob... how the hell did you get past bronze with your suck... cheese is for noobs...), but in the forums as well.
He was an even worse looser on those few times he lost, and almost all of them were to 'cheese' or 'early all in' builds, which he really didn't handle too well (he was more of a macro build player). "So basically, you are admitting you can't play the game by using cheese" was only the most polite phrase used by him. It generally devolved into copious quantities of profanity.
It got bad enough that his sponsors withdrew their sponsorship, the professional clan kicked him out, and has not been seen in any professional tournaments since.
IdrA's removal from the tournament scene is actually a good milestone for the infant pro-gaming industry... pointing out that even in video games, where there can be an incredibly toxic player base, there are behavior standards.
This guy had mad skills. He played Zerg, the most micro-intensive race in the game, and had some truly amazing micro and macro skills. He -never- missed an inject, even while in the middle of combat. His creep spread was amazing. He was easily one of the best players around.
And he was a complete ass. Not just to his opponents, to whom he was exceedingly derisive and derogatory (yea, this guy's an idiot... f**kin' noob... how the hell did you get past bronze with your suck... cheese is for noobs...), but in the forums as well.
He was an even worse looser on those few times he lost, and almost all of them were to 'cheese' or 'early all in' builds, which he really didn't handle too well (he was more of a macro build player). "So basically, you are admitting you can't play the game by using cheese" was only the most polite phrase used by him. It generally devolved into copious quantities of profanity.
It got bad enough that his sponsors withdrew their sponsorship, the professional clan kicked him out, and has not been seen in any professional tournaments since.
IdrA's removal from the tournament scene is actually a good milestone for the infant pro-gaming industry... pointing out that even in video games, where there can be an incredibly toxic player base, there are behavior standards.
Ah cela faisait un moment qu'il n'y en avais pas eu en effet, c'est toujours aussi mignon et vrai, rien qu'à traduire ta description. ^^
Ca manque un tantinet de détails sur leur corps. Le visage du pitit loup est un peu trop vide, le nez et la bouche manque. ^^'
Mais sinon continue c'est génial. ^^
Ca manque un tantinet de détails sur leur corps. Le visage du pitit loup est un peu trop vide, le nez et la bouche manque. ^^'
Mais sinon continue c'est génial. ^^
This is so true. I don't allow myself to get upset or angry over a game (or at least try not to, sometimes it can be hard). Like you said I feel sad for that person and how he must treat the people around him. If I'm insulted I just try to take it in stride and shrug it off, if I respond to them it's usually in a sarcastic "not really caring because its just a game" manor.
There is another side to this that bothers me. My friends don't necessarily handle this situation like I do and I end up hearing a lot of complaining. After a while it start's to wear me down and I'm no longer having fun because I'm constantly hearing them bicker about the other players. I understand the frustration when you're losing over and over but the fact is that there are people better than you at the game, despite their attitude, and you have to accept that.
There is another side to this that bothers me. My friends don't necessarily handle this situation like I do and I end up hearing a lot of complaining. After a while it start's to wear me down and I'm no longer having fun because I'm constantly hearing them bicker about the other players. I understand the frustration when you're losing over and over but the fact is that there are people better than you at the game, despite their attitude, and you have to accept that.
Screw who won, I had fun, I tried. I have a reason to feel good. win or not, I worked for it. so did my opponent. I'll apologize if my head's not in the game to my opponent. it's a measure of respect.
honestly, I won a lot. but so what? I had fun. if you didn't , I might have a few suggestions why. And how to improve. I WANT to be beaten. I want to win because you had a chance of beating me. if the playing field isn't at least close enough, it's not fun. I hate smashing creampuffs, or losing to someone who has an amazingly higher level of skill. WHy's someone like that playing at my level anyway? Ah well.
honestly, I won a lot. but so what? I had fun. if you didn't , I might have a few suggestions why. And how to improve. I WANT to be beaten. I want to win because you had a chance of beating me. if the playing field isn't at least close enough, it's not fun. I hate smashing creampuffs, or losing to someone who has an amazingly higher level of skill. WHy's someone like that playing at my level anyway? Ah well.
Nyeh, I actually think bragging is part of the sportsmanship XD Of course, if you brag, you have to expect get blown off just as much as you did, as part of the rationale.
Then again, more than once, I've saw the losing part getting hurt just because of a smirk and a fist pump alone, without any verbal followup :x
Then again, more than once, I've saw the losing part getting hurt just because of a smirk and a fist pump alone, without any verbal followup :x
This is useable to other things like popularity in the movies with both cast and crew, plus fandoms and communities singling out rookies or newbies into the group, I've had it happen and these "Life is A Chibi" drawings are great to favorite o-kemono, just love them. I'll also post these with the source and show them to others.
Does that include friendly trash talk because I know family member and friends that trash talk that just ends up meaning more funny then me. This one friend of mine will trash talk about how she gonna beak be at Ticket to Ride and I just return the banter to it just gets down right silly...
Friendly trash talk is totally different. What he's referring to is trash talk meant to cut down the other player. Venomous language that does damage well after the even, not the friendly bantering back and forth that you and your friend/family do.
Hell, you should here some of the stuff that my friends and I say to each other when we play. xD Its all in good fun though.
Hell, you should here some of the stuff that my friends and I say to each other when we play. xD Its all in good fun though.
Heh....I guess I'm kinda "lucky" I'm not all that great in fighting games....I'd be such a troll if I were....
But seriously...I've gotten my ass handed to me in ways I didn't even know existed. I'm a gracious loser though, using the opportunity to learn.
Of course, trash talking and trolling between friends is always O.K.
But seriously...I've gotten my ass handed to me in ways I didn't even know existed. I'm a gracious loser though, using the opportunity to learn.
Of course, trash talking and trolling between friends is always O.K.
Guess I got lucky then , up till now all the games I ever played at conventions , be it competitive or just at a game stand , I always had pretty nice adversaries and it was all in good fun.
Well there was that 9 year old kid (I think he might have been South Korean) once who pretty much had insane Soul Calibur skills and was beating the heck out of everyone, but I don't think he actually spoke french so he didn't brag, more the "silently insulting" type ^^
Well there was that 9 year old kid (I think he might have been South Korean) once who pretty much had insane Soul Calibur skills and was beating the heck out of everyone, but I don't think he actually spoke french so he didn't brag, more the "silently insulting" type ^^
What if the other player starts talking about giving upon something completely, though? My friend did that a lot when I played SSBB with him. I have good reflexes and kept trying to help him better his since some stuff was harder for him, but he kept complaining that he'd never get better and it affected MY performance after awhile.
Kinda why I started playing less with him before he moved. <.<
Kinda why I started playing less with him before he moved. <.<
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