A tale of one who loved the dragon divers so much, she invented her own little version.
Basically, it's a silly little story I get the urge to write a while back... the idea was allowed to get stale, unfortunately, so I fear I won't have written it very well, but I hope you can all enjoy it anyway. The vore is a little light, and some implied sex, but beyond that it's fairly tame.
If anyone is wondering, I am still working on the broken pact of the dragon divers, this was more a whim..
Basically, it's a silly little story I get the urge to write a while back... the idea was allowed to get stale, unfortunately, so I fear I won't have written it very well, but I hope you can all enjoy it anyway. The vore is a little light, and some implied sex, but beyond that it's fairly tame.
If anyone is wondering, I am still working on the broken pact of the dragon divers, this was more a whim..
Category Story / Vore
Species Hydra
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Actually, if you had place this in the 'adult vore' category instead of 'tame' vore category, you could have made it as mature/graphic as your imagination allows. However, if you plan to put all of your Drachen Pass stories into a single volume for publication (and they could all be linked into a single story if you worked at it), you will probably want to keep it at the 'tame' level for greater readership, particularly since 'dragon stories' tend to attract younger readers. You might consider making an 'adult' , more sexually explicit version, as well as a 'tame' version of this story. Other FA authors have done this as you may have noticed.
I was joking, clearly, about there not being a choice for graphic... and I have no intention of trying to publish my works in the Drachenpass, this was always a world where I would unleash my vorish ideas, all the other ideas I have, never touch these sites, I made my choices.
Nice little 'stand alone' story in the 'Drachenpass World", though at first glance, I thought you were continuing your current dragondiver story. It was interesting to see how other dragons tend to police their own kind for disruptive behavior when living among the humans, and it is easy to see that some dragons might tend to prefer deliberately letting their divers 'lose' the game to get a human meal, despite the fact they would get no other meal from the game organizers as a penaltry for loosing their diver. (Perhaps the 'Temptress' was able to coax human 'admirers' willingly into her maw during the period between games, and this might be mentioned if you expand this story a bit more.) I could see in any large city there would alway be humans wanting to commit suicide, or even 'vorephiles', and this might be preferred to other methods, particularly since thiw is the prenquent fate of the brave divers the population so admires.
I liked the idea of a 'hydra', dragon with each head having a mind of its own. I would have preferred it only having two heads though, because the Drachenpass world is relatively free of implausible magic, and two headed reptiles like turtles and snakes really do exist, though I do not know of any three headed creature occuring in nature. A three headed or even two headed dragon would be so unique, that I could imagine he too, has some kind of "God scam" with worshipping humans going on in his own lair as well, but visits the Temptress more for to quench his sexual desires, than for the relatively paltry human meal.
I noticed on my computer that this story didn't download properly, but came out in seperate files and very hard to read, so I read it at Eka's instead. I know I am not the only one that experiences this with some stories. This one was short enough that you could probably put it all on the intro page, which might encourage any new readers of your work here.
All in all, an enjoyable story, and thanks for posting.
I liked the idea of a 'hydra', dragon with each head having a mind of its own. I would have preferred it only having two heads though, because the Drachenpass world is relatively free of implausible magic, and two headed reptiles like turtles and snakes really do exist, though I do not know of any three headed creature occuring in nature. A three headed or even two headed dragon would be so unique, that I could imagine he too, has some kind of "God scam" with worshipping humans going on in his own lair as well, but visits the Temptress more for to quench his sexual desires, than for the relatively paltry human meal.
I noticed on my computer that this story didn't download properly, but came out in seperate files and very hard to read, so I read it at Eka's instead. I know I am not the only one that experiences this with some stories. This one was short enough that you could probably put it all on the intro page, which might encourage any new readers of your work here.
All in all, an enjoyable story, and thanks for posting.
Well, I'm glad you enjoyed it. To note your bracketed section, I did imply that she did just that... though perhaps not with enough clarity if that was missed.
The situation with the hydra is that the meals are just icing on the cake, he does see the dragoness as his true mate, and she sees him the same way, though I didn't bring it up, a fact I noted with regret as I wrote, the hydra is as sentient as her... and was very likely the hunter of those woods before she arrived, a part of me assumed the locals used to worship him more, but, with his split personalities, exploiting them was... a two against one vote, so it never really happened to a large degree, till she came along, very willing to enthrall the humans. As to why three heads, well, for one reason it's just how the personalities worked together, three factors in her perfect mate, and such... also, in a being with separate views, two can never get along... if they work by consensus, then they'll never agree. Three means no stalemates. If you want the biological reason too though, when it comes to dragons, or other massive reptiles in the mythical category, I make the assumption they are related in some manner, and I also assume they abide by a sort of... rule of three. After all, just as three headed animals aren't known to us, neither is a six limbed vertebrate, meaning that, in theroy, dragons are equally, or less likely than a three headed hydra. However, as they have three sets of limbs, fore and hind legs, and wings, I push this rule of three on my creations, because clearly at some point the seeming rule of two got broken for them. I assume this applies to their internal organs as well, though I haven't brought that up to much degree... too deep into biology for a wider audience. Therefore, I'm assuming hydras are on the same branch as dragons, and also have their own rule of three, leading to three heads. Though, I used to abhor hydras, I've only ever written two, in the history of everything I've ever written... the first, was indeed two headed, when I was very young, and then this one, which has been made since I started trying to conform to my little rule.
And, considering the... odd way this site seems to deal with stories, perhaps any shorter ones I make, I'll try to put in the intro, thanks for the advise on that.
The situation with the hydra is that the meals are just icing on the cake, he does see the dragoness as his true mate, and she sees him the same way, though I didn't bring it up, a fact I noted with regret as I wrote, the hydra is as sentient as her... and was very likely the hunter of those woods before she arrived, a part of me assumed the locals used to worship him more, but, with his split personalities, exploiting them was... a two against one vote, so it never really happened to a large degree, till she came along, very willing to enthrall the humans. As to why three heads, well, for one reason it's just how the personalities worked together, three factors in her perfect mate, and such... also, in a being with separate views, two can never get along... if they work by consensus, then they'll never agree. Three means no stalemates. If you want the biological reason too though, when it comes to dragons, or other massive reptiles in the mythical category, I make the assumption they are related in some manner, and I also assume they abide by a sort of... rule of three. After all, just as three headed animals aren't known to us, neither is a six limbed vertebrate, meaning that, in theroy, dragons are equally, or less likely than a three headed hydra. However, as they have three sets of limbs, fore and hind legs, and wings, I push this rule of three on my creations, because clearly at some point the seeming rule of two got broken for them. I assume this applies to their internal organs as well, though I haven't brought that up to much degree... too deep into biology for a wider audience. Therefore, I'm assuming hydras are on the same branch as dragons, and also have their own rule of three, leading to three heads. Though, I used to abhor hydras, I've only ever written two, in the history of everything I've ever written... the first, was indeed two headed, when I was very young, and then this one, which has been made since I started trying to conform to my little rule.
And, considering the... odd way this site seems to deal with stories, perhaps any shorter ones I make, I'll try to put in the intro, thanks for the advise on that.
Actually, additional arms are a much more common mutation than an animal that survives with two functional heads. If such a multi-limbed creatured survived to maturity, it could pass this trait to the next generation, and these 'extra' arms might develope into wings. On the other hand a triple headed mutation is completely unheard of, though of course, is accepted in magical/fantasy worlds. I see your hydra as simply a birth defect that survived, like many snakes and turtles, and try to ignore the third head which would make such a thing virtually impossible. However, a two-headed dragon, each with its own character, would be an interesting 'main' character in a serirous fantasy story.
I would not be embarrassed because of the vore to put the drachenpass stories to a 'mainstream' audience. The mainstream population accepts dragons as human-eating creatures, and such a dragon is a much loved character in one of the most succesful fantasy franchises ever created (Shrek). Sherman the Great White Shark of the comic routinely eats humans as well, and the 'mainstream' doesn't have a problem with it. Animal Planet gets its highest ratings during Shark and Croc weeks because of the natural human fascination with creatures than can eat us. It is the very reason dragons are so popular to begin with, as well at T-Rexes. Mose people have no idea what a 'vorephile' even is, not realizing this is part of human nature. This can be seen in our more primitive primate cousins as well.... anthropologists note they are morbidly fascinated by seeing their own kind being eaten.
For the most part, the vore in the DrachenPass series would be perfectly palatable and even desirable in published stories about dragons. In fact, if you tried to do stories without it, you might have "just another uninteresting cliche' dragon yarn" , particularly so since you seem so steadfast in your need to have stereotype human dragonslayers in your stories despite the vast advantage which huge, intelligent , flying dragons would have if they elected to wage a war of extermination against any humans that could seriously threaten them. But then, this is a flaw of so many dragon stories, and why much of the adult fantasy audience thinks they are childish, for the most part.
I would not be embarrassed because of the vore to put the drachenpass stories to a 'mainstream' audience. The mainstream population accepts dragons as human-eating creatures, and such a dragon is a much loved character in one of the most succesful fantasy franchises ever created (Shrek). Sherman the Great White Shark of the comic routinely eats humans as well, and the 'mainstream' doesn't have a problem with it. Animal Planet gets its highest ratings during Shark and Croc weeks because of the natural human fascination with creatures than can eat us. It is the very reason dragons are so popular to begin with, as well at T-Rexes. Mose people have no idea what a 'vorephile' even is, not realizing this is part of human nature. This can be seen in our more primitive primate cousins as well.... anthropologists note they are morbidly fascinated by seeing their own kind being eaten.
For the most part, the vore in the DrachenPass series would be perfectly palatable and even desirable in published stories about dragons. In fact, if you tried to do stories without it, you might have "just another uninteresting cliche' dragon yarn" , particularly so since you seem so steadfast in your need to have stereotype human dragonslayers in your stories despite the vast advantage which huge, intelligent , flying dragons would have if they elected to wage a war of extermination against any humans that could seriously threaten them. But then, this is a flaw of so many dragon stories, and why much of the adult fantasy audience thinks they are childish, for the most part.
I draw reference to the norm, in theory additional arms are a potentially stable evolution, hence why I consider dragons possible enough, I'm just pointing out that neither really exists in our world, so, either is equally fantasy... in truth, any such radical evolution of the homeobox genes would likely make the creature unmatable by its own kind, or put it at great disadvantage, hence why I assume they're from an older branch that followed this three over two thing... and, to be fair, the early hydra legends are often about far more than two or three... reducing it to such numbers is already a step.
To clarify though, it's not the vorish aspects of the Drachenpass that make me withhold it, and I'm not "embarrassed" by the vore. My stories with dragons do involve human eating, to counter your quick assumption. The difference is that the Drachenpass was written specifically for vore, and my most vorishly explicit ideas appear there. I'm by no means cutting human eating from my other work, as I've stated, I abhor tales where all the dragons have some sort of human-like morality to eating humans.
Also, don't start that dragon-slayer malarkey again, I've seen two people counter your arguments and have their points ignored, batted aside without consideration, so I'm not willing to repeat myself again, facts are facts, and I see no point in arguing your pet peeve if you won't hear them.
To clarify though, it's not the vorish aspects of the Drachenpass that make me withhold it, and I'm not "embarrassed" by the vore. My stories with dragons do involve human eating, to counter your quick assumption. The difference is that the Drachenpass was written specifically for vore, and my most vorishly explicit ideas appear there. I'm by no means cutting human eating from my other work, as I've stated, I abhor tales where all the dragons have some sort of human-like morality to eating humans.
Also, don't start that dragon-slayer malarkey again, I've seen two people counter your arguments and have their points ignored, batted aside without consideration, so I'm not willing to repeat myself again, facts are facts, and I see no point in arguing your pet peeve if you won't hear them.
Of course six legged creatures could exist naturally in another 'world', though this is a much smaller step than naturally evolved multi-headed creatures that weren't birth defects, or half bird, and feline Griffons and similarly fantastical creatures as apparently some readers would like to see, which I believe would take away the bit of realism the stories seem to have now. I suspect if the ancient stories of multiple headed 'dragons' was based on any living creature, it was probably the giant squid, and the tentacles were mistaken for heads. But of course, any ancient storyteller who understood how terrible a single headed dragon would be, might simply add more heads to make it seem that much more terrible.
However, two headed, normally functioning reptiles are a scientific fact, with some of the animals succesful enough to reach maturity. And if born among a sentient species like your dragons, the ability to survive and flourish are dramatically increased, though this being a birth defect, would not mean more two headed dragons even if it succesfully mated.
The only reason I desisted in replying in detail to all of the pro-dragonslayer rubbish, was a common courtesy to you not to add extensive comments to a third party on YOUR comment page. If you recall, I had asked those persons to discuss these matters on a comment page of one of my stories instead. I never contested the fact humans could lure an unwary dragon into a trap, poison a trusting one, yada yada yada. The point I was making was because humans are intelligent and understand the concept of 'consequences for their actions', and the fact that these dragons are huge, can fly, spew fire and most importantly, appear to be equally intelligent, then killing one could mean terrible and unstoppable retribution. The only 'malarkey' that I saw in this conversation was your own 'pet peeve' that dragons that habitually eat humans, strangely seem to have too high a morality code to completey level a city largely composed of 'innocent' humans as an object lesson to the humans to never try to kill another dragon. Surely you know that in the mainstream world, the notion of human dragonslayers hunting and killing huge, intelligent, flying dragons is often ridiculed and lampoomed for all of the reasons I have stated. But I will say no more on this as you seem highly sensitive to critisism on this particular subject. But in case you are interested, I intend to post a stand alone article examinning the stupidity of the dragonslaying cliche' in fantasy writing, and I will happily address all of those who care to critisise or counter my points.
However, two headed, normally functioning reptiles are a scientific fact, with some of the animals succesful enough to reach maturity. And if born among a sentient species like your dragons, the ability to survive and flourish are dramatically increased, though this being a birth defect, would not mean more two headed dragons even if it succesfully mated.
The only reason I desisted in replying in detail to all of the pro-dragonslayer rubbish, was a common courtesy to you not to add extensive comments to a third party on YOUR comment page. If you recall, I had asked those persons to discuss these matters on a comment page of one of my stories instead. I never contested the fact humans could lure an unwary dragon into a trap, poison a trusting one, yada yada yada. The point I was making was because humans are intelligent and understand the concept of 'consequences for their actions', and the fact that these dragons are huge, can fly, spew fire and most importantly, appear to be equally intelligent, then killing one could mean terrible and unstoppable retribution. The only 'malarkey' that I saw in this conversation was your own 'pet peeve' that dragons that habitually eat humans, strangely seem to have too high a morality code to completey level a city largely composed of 'innocent' humans as an object lesson to the humans to never try to kill another dragon. Surely you know that in the mainstream world, the notion of human dragonslayers hunting and killing huge, intelligent, flying dragons is often ridiculed and lampoomed for all of the reasons I have stated. But I will say no more on this as you seem highly sensitive to critisism on this particular subject. But in case you are interested, I intend to post a stand alone article examinning the stupidity of the dragonslaying cliche' in fantasy writing, and I will happily address all of those who care to critisise or counter my points.
Birth defects is an odd statement... if it works, then it works. The final point is, for whatever reason legends of hydras exist, and when I decided to make a hydra in a tale, this is the one that seemed most appropriate. If I was writing a debate on what is more likely, then I wouldn't be a fictional writer. You're just going to have to accept that a fantasy creature is a fantasy creature, open to artistic interpretation, and, that when splitting a mind, three makes more sense than two, hence why I picked three, not two. End of story.
To clarify, you posted extreme detail, that clogged pages, only none of it was in reply to comments questioning your points, you merely skipped confronting the arguments, and then re-posted your argument after a few comments, to be countered, and have the counter ignored again. That isn't how debates work. And, not to get into it all again, I will just say this. Humans are capable of stupidity when they are desperate, enraged, broken from loss, or raised poorly. I accept that, it is a fact, a fact that history, and even current events will prove without question, especially when religion is involved, and the religion I was shown in my early years was very anti-dragon, so I assume others could be so, and if somebody believes dying in a certain way can redeem, or gain them access to some chosen land, they shall do it. If they believe the creature before them is not a mere animal, but literally a demon that intends to eradicate humans, then they are not concerned with the consequences of attacking it, for they already believe the fire to be inevitable. I have never been "pro-dragonslayer", I simply use them as a personification of human stupidity, I am not claiming any rational human being would attempt to attack a dragon. Please, try to hear me this time, because as I've stated before, I'm not getting into a brick wall argument again.
Secondly, I am not sensitive to criticism on this topic, as you would like to assume is the reason, as it shifts the blame conveniently from yourself. What I dislike about this topic, is your inability to conceive that any view on it besides your own has merit. Clearly it is something you are very sensitive about, as you cannot stop yourself bringing it up again, even after I gave very specific warning, but, there it was, the snide recurring of your unshakable opinion.
And lastly, to correct you once more, and do note, I am not arguing, I am not debating, I am correcting. So don't try to blabber this argument again, because I'm correcting your perception on how my dragons think. My dragons do not avoid human settlements because they see those humans as "Innocent" as you bizarrely quoted in your statement. This is a crucial aspect of my dragons, which I have stated, to you, many times, but which you have ignored each time, so many times, in fact, I have to wonder if you even take in what I state, so listen closely this time. My dragons are hunters. They feel no remorse in eating when they have to eat, if it is a human, they may pity the family who loses one of their own, but they will not regret the meal, for it was what they needed to survive. They are not, however, psychopathic killers, they would potentially converse with a human if they were full, and they will not kill unless they require the meat in their diet. That is the reason they do not ravage human settlements. A very, very simple biological concept, you do not survive well if you destroy your own food supply. My dragons are top of the chain predators, and like any predator, every hunt is a fight for survival, they do not feed well enough the year round to try and slaughter a mass group, and, despite your disbelief at the fact, they are fragile in this way. A bad bruise, an infected cut, and their prey will win in hunts. Look, I get it, you are like all those I attempt to change the minds of, that dragons don't have to be either soft-hearted human lovers or destructive embodiment of fury. I write my dragons in between, they have their moralities that will drive them to kill only when they need, to take the lives of only what they require to feed themselves, but it's not just morality, it's the key to survival, managing food stores, that's why it evolved as their morality... because it was actually beneficial.
So, to summarize, humans are capable of stupidity(undebatable for anyone who peeks in history), and people will risk or give their lives for something they've been raised to believe in (just look at suicide bombers and tell me it makes any more sense than assaulting a dragon). And, that dragons need to eat regularly in order to live (look at every animal in existence, undebatable), and as top predators, of great size, they need a lot(a fact). Even if they eat humans once every five hunts, that would be one fifth of hunts failing if they decided to destroy a human settlement in their territory(which as I have noted, they have no reason to do) therefore, it would harm them to act as you describe(This final conclusion deductively reasoned from a list of undebatable facts, so don't question it again).
Also, you misused the term pet peeve in a poorly thought out attempt to backfire my words. But honestly, I have no problem with debating my dragons, besides the fact it clogs my comment page. On that note, if you still haven't gotten the message, use the private messaging service, rather than bothering my other watchers with these. But, if you must speak so passionately, do please think things through beyond the immediate flaws or benefits of a strategy... and I cannot overstate enough, make sure you know the mindset and ways of my dragons before using incorrect assumptions as a keystone to your arguments. It makes correcting these flaws a waste of time that I could be using for far more important and productive things...
To clarify, you posted extreme detail, that clogged pages, only none of it was in reply to comments questioning your points, you merely skipped confronting the arguments, and then re-posted your argument after a few comments, to be countered, and have the counter ignored again. That isn't how debates work. And, not to get into it all again, I will just say this. Humans are capable of stupidity when they are desperate, enraged, broken from loss, or raised poorly. I accept that, it is a fact, a fact that history, and even current events will prove without question, especially when religion is involved, and the religion I was shown in my early years was very anti-dragon, so I assume others could be so, and if somebody believes dying in a certain way can redeem, or gain them access to some chosen land, they shall do it. If they believe the creature before them is not a mere animal, but literally a demon that intends to eradicate humans, then they are not concerned with the consequences of attacking it, for they already believe the fire to be inevitable. I have never been "pro-dragonslayer", I simply use them as a personification of human stupidity, I am not claiming any rational human being would attempt to attack a dragon. Please, try to hear me this time, because as I've stated before, I'm not getting into a brick wall argument again.
Secondly, I am not sensitive to criticism on this topic, as you would like to assume is the reason, as it shifts the blame conveniently from yourself. What I dislike about this topic, is your inability to conceive that any view on it besides your own has merit. Clearly it is something you are very sensitive about, as you cannot stop yourself bringing it up again, even after I gave very specific warning, but, there it was, the snide recurring of your unshakable opinion.
And lastly, to correct you once more, and do note, I am not arguing, I am not debating, I am correcting. So don't try to blabber this argument again, because I'm correcting your perception on how my dragons think. My dragons do not avoid human settlements because they see those humans as "Innocent" as you bizarrely quoted in your statement. This is a crucial aspect of my dragons, which I have stated, to you, many times, but which you have ignored each time, so many times, in fact, I have to wonder if you even take in what I state, so listen closely this time. My dragons are hunters. They feel no remorse in eating when they have to eat, if it is a human, they may pity the family who loses one of their own, but they will not regret the meal, for it was what they needed to survive. They are not, however, psychopathic killers, they would potentially converse with a human if they were full, and they will not kill unless they require the meat in their diet. That is the reason they do not ravage human settlements. A very, very simple biological concept, you do not survive well if you destroy your own food supply. My dragons are top of the chain predators, and like any predator, every hunt is a fight for survival, they do not feed well enough the year round to try and slaughter a mass group, and, despite your disbelief at the fact, they are fragile in this way. A bad bruise, an infected cut, and their prey will win in hunts. Look, I get it, you are like all those I attempt to change the minds of, that dragons don't have to be either soft-hearted human lovers or destructive embodiment of fury. I write my dragons in between, they have their moralities that will drive them to kill only when they need, to take the lives of only what they require to feed themselves, but it's not just morality, it's the key to survival, managing food stores, that's why it evolved as their morality... because it was actually beneficial.
So, to summarize, humans are capable of stupidity(undebatable for anyone who peeks in history), and people will risk or give their lives for something they've been raised to believe in (just look at suicide bombers and tell me it makes any more sense than assaulting a dragon). And, that dragons need to eat regularly in order to live (look at every animal in existence, undebatable), and as top predators, of great size, they need a lot(a fact). Even if they eat humans once every five hunts, that would be one fifth of hunts failing if they decided to destroy a human settlement in their territory(which as I have noted, they have no reason to do) therefore, it would harm them to act as you describe(This final conclusion deductively reasoned from a list of undebatable facts, so don't question it again).
Also, you misused the term pet peeve in a poorly thought out attempt to backfire my words. But honestly, I have no problem with debating my dragons, besides the fact it clogs my comment page. On that note, if you still haven't gotten the message, use the private messaging service, rather than bothering my other watchers with these. But, if you must speak so passionately, do please think things through beyond the immediate flaws or benefits of a strategy... and I cannot overstate enough, make sure you know the mindset and ways of my dragons before using incorrect assumptions as a keystone to your arguments. It makes correcting these flaws a waste of time that I could be using for far more important and productive things...
The very reason I am even spending time pointing out those things which make your stories still seem unbelievable is because you are indeed trying to 'break the 'stereotypical dragon mold' by depicting your dragons as neither the sacharine human pets, or diabolical monsters as they are usually portrayed.... and the writing itself is good. I think the problem here is that you are unable to grasp all the realitites of the world you created. The stories wouldn't work at all, as I have pointed out, if these humand had had thousands of years of contact with these dragons already, and I thought you did concede that point. The world would have evolved far differently and dragons would have been far more integrated in their culture and socieities than a few dragon diving circus performers in one city. When the migrating dragons did arrive, and it was discovered these dragons were not just mindless feral predators, each human kingdom/city state would want to be allied with them because of their power and abilities. The only dragons reduced to hunting would be odd 'throwbacks' who wish to preerve the 'old ways' of their more primitive ancestors, just like human cults who do not use modern conveniences or even take medicene. Dragons would be fed and pampered just to have their presence in their cities simply to deter attacks from other humans. This is what you don't seem to get in your knowledge of history. Humans have always been at war with each other, and would look to the arrivial of the dragons as ways to help/defend themselves. It is no different than domesticating horses and elephants to help them in war. I never said anything about dragons contstantly ravaging human settlements because dragons in your world wouldn't have to. If hunting was bad for the few retro dragons that would still live in the wilderness, they would simply go to a human settlement and ask for food, even offering to do something in return, if simply not being a dragon that can protect their local settlement from other humans was not enough. I have only advocated dragons banding together to destory a city (which they certainly have the ability to do), in the almost unthinkable event there were humans openly hostile to them and killing their children. Destroying such a city would have no impact on their food supply, or good relations with 'local' human settlements where they have an 'understanding' (and in most cases be welcome, even with the occasional loss of a person to the dragon as in the case of the Drachenpass settlement). Go back as far as you can in recorded history and you will find humans are not 'stupid'. The intelligent leaders may sometimes send the stupidest of their followers to do stupid things (like suicide bombers), but bear in mind this is a modern idea which can only be perpetrated by outlaw groups that essentially do not have a country or even city that can be retaliated against. I do not discount the fact that there might be lone humans trying to gain fame, or a relative of a person preyed on, that may foolishly try to kill a dragon, but such persons would be be considered dangers to the human population, and would not be supported by anyone in the world you picture, because retaliation by angry dragons could be so severe. So it is really this idea of giant dragonslayer cults, or kingdoms that is really the most unbelievable aspect of your stories. And it is logical from the actions of your dragons already, that they would do something to eliminate any organised threat against them, even with the help of 'friendly' humans to make their already formidable abilities even better. Understand that in the world you paint, a large intelligent dragon would be as deadly as an atomic bomb. History shows that NO country attacks a country that possesses 'the bomb' because of how severe the retaliation would be. This is why all the arabic nations that despise Israel haven't attacked it again since they got 'the bomb'. When you understand that dragons are the equivalent of 'the bomb' in your world of medeival-tech humans, hopefully all the absurdity of huge dragonslayer cults or nations will no longer taint your otherwise great stories.
And as for be not addressing all of the counterpoints on how deadly your dragons could be, if they did decide to punish a medieval tech civilization, I found them too childish to bother with and didn't want to clog your comment page. But if you want me to address them on that other page, I will be happy to do so. I did not do it before as a common courtesy to you, which you seem to perceive as my inability to make an argument. This is not the case at all.
As to what I believe you were referring to as christianity being an 'anti-dragon' religion, this was never the case at all when the religion began. Dragons were the highest heavenly creatures,(which is actually what a Seraph means in hebrew), much as they are in other religions throughout the world. Satan is a dragon not because he is evil, but because all of these highest creatures are dragons, and he is just the one that rebelled. But even this concept was a later invention of Chritianity, added to the doctrine because in original Judaism, God is both good and evil, and there isn't a dualistic bad god (Satan) to contrast the good god. Ironically, even the 'good god' of billions of Christians , Jews and Muslims, is described in the Bible with huge wings, fiery breath, smoking nostrils, sharp talons, eats cattle and human sacrifices, hoards gold, and ordered the Hebrews to build his idol of a fiery flying serpent, but people these days tend to ignore these facts. Read my little story, The Truth About Dragons, to learn a little more about this. My next book covers these things in much greater detail.
And as for be not addressing all of the counterpoints on how deadly your dragons could be, if they did decide to punish a medieval tech civilization, I found them too childish to bother with and didn't want to clog your comment page. But if you want me to address them on that other page, I will be happy to do so. I did not do it before as a common courtesy to you, which you seem to perceive as my inability to make an argument. This is not the case at all.
As to what I believe you were referring to as christianity being an 'anti-dragon' religion, this was never the case at all when the religion began. Dragons were the highest heavenly creatures,(which is actually what a Seraph means in hebrew), much as they are in other religions throughout the world. Satan is a dragon not because he is evil, but because all of these highest creatures are dragons, and he is just the one that rebelled. But even this concept was a later invention of Chritianity, added to the doctrine because in original Judaism, God is both good and evil, and there isn't a dualistic bad god (Satan) to contrast the good god. Ironically, even the 'good god' of billions of Christians , Jews and Muslims, is described in the Bible with huge wings, fiery breath, smoking nostrils, sharp talons, eats cattle and human sacrifices, hoards gold, and ordered the Hebrews to build his idol of a fiery flying serpent, but people these days tend to ignore these facts. Read my little story, The Truth About Dragons, to learn a little more about this. My next book covers these things in much greater detail.
Proof in point that you do not listen to what I say "if you still haven't gotten the message, use the private messaging service, rather than bothering my other watchers with these"
I get it, you think the meeting of dragons and humans would go one way because of several traits, and I'm sure it could. However, in my world, things went a different way, for reasons I have stated. If you refuse to acknowledge those reasons and fool yourself that I havn't thought through every facet you bring up already, then I honestly don't want to hear it over and over again, you'll just have to accept that I'm not going to write your perfect story, because I put human fear of predation above the potential benefits they would gain if they brought dragons in, which I consider a rarity over a norm. Because my dragons are built upon a different mindset to humans and so have, generally, no interest in sinking into human society. Because my dragons see domestication and don't wish to be seen as the next beast of burden.
And I'd love to hear (on a private message, to not clog my comment page, as I stated very clearly) you rebukes against the physical facts on my dragons capabilities which you percieved incomprehensively as "too childish" to offer a counter arguement to. I took the time to counter every misguided assumption you made, even if you think mine are as much so, I'd expect you to attempt to counter them.
And if I am wrong about the truth of these religions, then I've still proven my point to how the teaching of a religion can be driving or misunderstoof. And, to clarify, once more, for your empty minded reminding, I have never, not even once, nor hinted at "giant dragonslayer cults" I have said, repeatedly, that it is, and has always been small numbers, tiny numbers, insufficient numbers for any rational dragon to recognise, and the only reason they have ever appeared in relatively large quantities is due to the vorish nature of my writings, when I write something for the sake of vore, I use an example of where the prey had it coming, simple.
You claim to otherwise enjoy my stories, but your only method of arguing is to throw insults at any opinion that does not match your own, and you ever neglect the diversity of my realm. I have indicated, sometimes there are close relationships between dragons and humans, but generally my dragons do not get close. For a very simple reason, they are predators, and humans are often their prey. Some dragons may see humans as special, and so only take humans when other prey is scarse, others make no distinction out of a sort of natural fairness, but, once a dragon actually likes a human, it means that human has triggered parental recognition, just like humans do to our pets. Hence, the dragon would have difficulty eating when they need to eat.
If you deign to clog my pages with this arguement I warned against, again, then I will finally purge you. So prove me wrong and actually use the pm system, unless my assessment is right, and you maintain this simply because you like the thought of as many people as possible seeing your opinion broadcast, even if it is being lashed.
I get it, you think the meeting of dragons and humans would go one way because of several traits, and I'm sure it could. However, in my world, things went a different way, for reasons I have stated. If you refuse to acknowledge those reasons and fool yourself that I havn't thought through every facet you bring up already, then I honestly don't want to hear it over and over again, you'll just have to accept that I'm not going to write your perfect story, because I put human fear of predation above the potential benefits they would gain if they brought dragons in, which I consider a rarity over a norm. Because my dragons are built upon a different mindset to humans and so have, generally, no interest in sinking into human society. Because my dragons see domestication and don't wish to be seen as the next beast of burden.
And I'd love to hear (on a private message, to not clog my comment page, as I stated very clearly) you rebukes against the physical facts on my dragons capabilities which you percieved incomprehensively as "too childish" to offer a counter arguement to. I took the time to counter every misguided assumption you made, even if you think mine are as much so, I'd expect you to attempt to counter them.
And if I am wrong about the truth of these religions, then I've still proven my point to how the teaching of a religion can be driving or misunderstoof. And, to clarify, once more, for your empty minded reminding, I have never, not even once, nor hinted at "giant dragonslayer cults" I have said, repeatedly, that it is, and has always been small numbers, tiny numbers, insufficient numbers for any rational dragon to recognise, and the only reason they have ever appeared in relatively large quantities is due to the vorish nature of my writings, when I write something for the sake of vore, I use an example of where the prey had it coming, simple.
You claim to otherwise enjoy my stories, but your only method of arguing is to throw insults at any opinion that does not match your own, and you ever neglect the diversity of my realm. I have indicated, sometimes there are close relationships between dragons and humans, but generally my dragons do not get close. For a very simple reason, they are predators, and humans are often their prey. Some dragons may see humans as special, and so only take humans when other prey is scarse, others make no distinction out of a sort of natural fairness, but, once a dragon actually likes a human, it means that human has triggered parental recognition, just like humans do to our pets. Hence, the dragon would have difficulty eating when they need to eat.
If you deign to clog my pages with this arguement I warned against, again, then I will finally purge you. So prove me wrong and actually use the pm system, unless my assessment is right, and you maintain this simply because you like the thought of as many people as possible seeing your opinion broadcast, even if it is being lashed.
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