I’ve not posted any mythology in a while, and I think I’m going to pick back up with it. Thus, here’s the next installment of the mythology of Gilrandree (and Odontaspis/Aetobatus’) world.
In this installment, I’ll talk about what they aren’t.
Next up, I’ll either outline a bit of Gil’s personal history (how he came to become one of the Demon Lords), or continue on with a general outline of the mythology. I think I’ve actually figured out how to tell his story in a way which makes sense, so perhaps it’s time for that. As hinted above, the backstory of Gil actually has him walking frighteningly close to the “Devil" line, probably even crossing over it at one point, though he managed to return to his true nature before too much damage was done to himself.
In this installment, I’ll talk about what they aren’t.
Next up, I’ll either outline a bit of Gil’s personal history (how he came to become one of the Demon Lords), or continue on with a general outline of the mythology. I think I’ve actually figured out how to tell his story in a way which makes sense, so perhaps it’s time for that. As hinted above, the backstory of Gil actually has him walking frighteningly close to the “Devil" line, probably even crossing over it at one point, though he managed to return to his true nature before too much damage was done to himself.
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That was interesting. I like the way you've got Devils set up in this world, and can easily see an Angel (with the best of intentions at first) falling into being one.
I had a part angel character I played in City of Heroes, and I didn't want her to fall into the typical "angels hate demons" trap. I shifted her more towards "instinctively opposed to things corrupted", but never quite found a way to think of that that made sense. Your take on Devils quickly and neatly sums up everything I was flailing around for at the time.
I had a part angel character I played in City of Heroes, and I didn't want her to fall into the typical "angels hate demons" trap. I shifted her more towards "instinctively opposed to things corrupted", but never quite found a way to think of that that made sense. Your take on Devils quickly and neatly sums up everything I was flailing around for at the time.
Thanks. I've always thought that the "Devil" from the ideal of "fallen Angels" and the "Demon" from the ideal of "those who punish the damned" really don't make sense to be the same creatures. There's no real reason those who reward the virtuous (the Angels) should really be opposed at all to those who punish the wicked (the Demons); they are both working toward the same goal, when all is said and done, which has always suggested to me that Demons should be more of a "primordial" class of beings than Devils.
Now, almost certainly, the Angels don't like the Demons, probably finding them generally unpleasant creatures doing unpleasant work, but I'd actually think both would hold mutual respect for the other, even if they personally don't care to hang out together. But Devils, being any Fae corrupted by their own drive for power even over their very nature, would trigger as "wrong" to Demons and Angels alike.
I think it would be interesting to play how a half-Angel character would react to Demons in this mythology (aside from the fact I'm not sure what "half-Angel would mean in this world. :) "). Their Fae halves would respect them, even if they find them distasteful, but the mortal half would have to work to avoid classifying them as downright evil. It could actually end up being the source for quite a bit of internal stress.
I'm probably going to tackle Gil's personal history next: I think I have enough written now to be able to explain it in a coherent way, though the more I think about it, the more I wonder one thing: Is he a Demon or a Devil? He's certainly acting like a Demon, not going against his nature, not abusing his power (more than any Demon Lord abuses their power by their very nature), but there's that one point in his history where, the more I think about it, he almost certainly crossed that line. He's likely a bit of a "Fallen Demon" who managed to "redeem" himself (insofar as you can use the term "redeem" to refer to going back to the level of the morality of a Demon :) ).
Now, almost certainly, the Angels don't like the Demons, probably finding them generally unpleasant creatures doing unpleasant work, but I'd actually think both would hold mutual respect for the other, even if they personally don't care to hang out together. But Devils, being any Fae corrupted by their own drive for power even over their very nature, would trigger as "wrong" to Demons and Angels alike.
I think it would be interesting to play how a half-Angel character would react to Demons in this mythology (aside from the fact I'm not sure what "half-Angel would mean in this world. :) "). Their Fae halves would respect them, even if they find them distasteful, but the mortal half would have to work to avoid classifying them as downright evil. It could actually end up being the source for quite a bit of internal stress.
I'm probably going to tackle Gil's personal history next: I think I have enough written now to be able to explain it in a coherent way, though the more I think about it, the more I wonder one thing: Is he a Demon or a Devil? He's certainly acting like a Demon, not going against his nature, not abusing his power (more than any Demon Lord abuses their power by their very nature), but there's that one point in his history where, the more I think about it, he almost certainly crossed that line. He's likely a bit of a "Fallen Demon" who managed to "redeem" himself (insofar as you can use the term "redeem" to refer to going back to the level of the morality of a Demon :) ).
As far as half-angels go, I've been wondering if an angel (or demon) could create an aspect capable of fathering a child. Biologically, it seems sound, if they try. They might be able to pass part of their power on to the child, but I mostly see the child being a sort of living seal that they can empower and work through. Depending on the child and parent, they may or may not try to resist this.
I'm assuming father simply because that is how it's usually depicted in myths and stories when a "higher power" creates a half-blood offspring. It also means that they only need to have the parenting-capable aspect intact for a fairly short amount of time.
I'm assuming father simply because that is how it's usually depicted in myths and stories when a "higher power" creates a half-blood offspring. It also means that they only need to have the parenting-capable aspect intact for a fairly short amount of time.
Perhaps. I certainly wasn't implying it wasn't possible, only that I'd not really thought out how it would work in that world or what the implications of half-fae nature would be. (And it would really apply to all fae, not just demons and angels).
I also tend to agree that it would be the male fae more likely to do this sort of thing; in general, males tend to be a bit less discriminatory as to what they mate with than females. I think simple biology suggests this may well because the males don't have to live with carrying around the results for much of a year then be faced with the choice of raising it or abandoning it.
And to be blunt, Gil's not at all above raping his victims when the mood strikes. That's something quite regularly depicted in various mythologies about demons, and given their dominating, brutal, tormenting nature, really is entirely in place for them. It makes sense that those few who he actually chooses NOT to kill after (or during) such treatment may well end up carrying half-demon offspring. The angels, presumably, are a bit less "rapey" in their mating with mortals. :)
I actually was in a ShadowRun game a while back where my character was a half-demon, basically played as a child of Gil and a mortal human woman, and Gil was actually a father figure to him; he had his private little portal into the Abyss, and even as he was raised in a human world, a few times a month, he'd go down to the Abyss for the weekend to hang out with his father, who actually cared deeply for his son. It was an interesting mix, the human emotional range (including friendship and love) overlayed with the fae unwillingness to break oaths made him actually a very good friend, someone you could trust you life with, but the demonic brutality and unconcern for human life also made him someone who, for example, could casually torture someone for information and return to the group (in his demon shape, of course) to report what he'd learned, covered in blood, without the least concern for what he'd done.
I once referred to him as being very likely a psychopath, but I don't think that's really true. He knew what he was doing, and understood how it effected his victims and their loved ones, but growing up spending weekends in the literal Hell, he simply had grown cold to it. He rarely killed for pleasure (when it did, it was to get out frustration and anger), but when work called for it, it was part of the job, and he didn't hesitate to do what he was paid to do.
I also tend to agree that it would be the male fae more likely to do this sort of thing; in general, males tend to be a bit less discriminatory as to what they mate with than females. I think simple biology suggests this may well because the males don't have to live with carrying around the results for much of a year then be faced with the choice of raising it or abandoning it.
And to be blunt, Gil's not at all above raping his victims when the mood strikes. That's something quite regularly depicted in various mythologies about demons, and given their dominating, brutal, tormenting nature, really is entirely in place for them. It makes sense that those few who he actually chooses NOT to kill after (or during) such treatment may well end up carrying half-demon offspring. The angels, presumably, are a bit less "rapey" in their mating with mortals. :)
I actually was in a ShadowRun game a while back where my character was a half-demon, basically played as a child of Gil and a mortal human woman, and Gil was actually a father figure to him; he had his private little portal into the Abyss, and even as he was raised in a human world, a few times a month, he'd go down to the Abyss for the weekend to hang out with his father, who actually cared deeply for his son. It was an interesting mix, the human emotional range (including friendship and love) overlayed with the fae unwillingness to break oaths made him actually a very good friend, someone you could trust you life with, but the demonic brutality and unconcern for human life also made him someone who, for example, could casually torture someone for information and return to the group (in his demon shape, of course) to report what he'd learned, covered in blood, without the least concern for what he'd done.
I once referred to him as being very likely a psychopath, but I don't think that's really true. He knew what he was doing, and understood how it effected his victims and their loved ones, but growing up spending weekends in the literal Hell, he simply had grown cold to it. He rarely killed for pleasure (when it did, it was to get out frustration and anger), but when work called for it, it was part of the job, and he didn't hesitate to do what he was paid to do.
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