Good to know...

Glad I could inform you.

sadly I already made an account, and I can't delete it. so I think i'll just log out, and not bother with it. xD

Yeah, same here. I found the layout too annoying so I haven't really been using it, and now because of this I'm definitely not going back. XD

yeah I agree with the layout of it, not a fan of it at all. can't say I don't blame you. ^^

People can say what they want about FA's layout, but at least I can find all the options and buttons I want on here. XD

fair enough, now if only it was a bit more secure. xD

That's always a potential problem with non-major websites without the millions of dollars of backing behind them. All you can do is your own personal security measures to make sure nothing too personal is compromised. XD

that's also a valid point. reason why I changed my email after the fiasco. xD

Hehe, probably a wise idea. XD

you got it!

Hehe.

That's one less site to bother signing up for ^^;

Yeah, it's still unfortunate though since it would nice to have an alternative site that is (in my opinion) half decent. Oh well, guess we'll be sticking to FA for now. XD

the tweet say they they're be allowing legal content including cub art. They didn't mention anything about cub porn. i think they met g-rated cub art. Shouldn't assume that they'll allowing cub porn.

Cub is often short for "cub porn" in a lot of furry conversations outside the babyfur fandom. But to clarify, read the comment above Furry Network's tweet as their tweet was a response to a question someone was asking if they allowed cub porn or not which FN replied that it acceptable as long as it's properly rated,

I think of babyfur and kids when I heard the term "cub"

Well, I agree that is what should mean. But unfortunately a lot of furries use it to mean cub porn, though I wish they wouldn't.

They're actually banning cub porn, but allowing cubfur art. That tweet just didn't answer that particular question due to some kind of misunderstanding.

https://twitter.com/FurryNetwork/st.....96837200879616

thank you very much for sharing.

Okay, that is interesting. I still probably won't use FN due to not liking the layout but it's good to know they have changed that rule. Thanks for the link Squeaky.

As a victim and a survivor of rape as a child from her father for many years, its difficult to view Cub pornography because they are depicting children characters in sexual situations that are not appropriate for their ages.
I personally did not enjoy being raped by my father, so the images portrayed of characters willing to take Daddy's "BIG YUMMY COCK" is unrealistic and not something kids "crave" unless they have been groomed to believe so.

I am sorry that you feel the need to defend cub porn because you might have a liking for such a thing -- and that's fine. But, this person has all the right in the world to warn and express an opinion on this situation just like you felt the need to.

Some people just really don't want to go onto a website to see a cub being raped in 5 different directions. I mean, I don't. So I steer clear away from inkbunny or e621.

I don't think cub porn has its place on a "typical" site dedicated to consenting adults with adult characters -- maybe somewhere specialized, but I don't think it needs to be on a budding site trying to curbstomp FA, which needs it. Badly.

http://i.imgur.com/MZgE6Mt.gif

I'm sorry you might enjoy the idea of molesting fake children, man.


So I guess we should open the pool for folks like you because otherwise you can't get your rocks off -- and that's a bad thing? Damn. I'm so prejeduced. Blindly prejeduced because I can't accept that others actual fantasize about molesting kids.
Man. The world sure does seem to want to revolve around your fetishes, but when someone vocalizes that it freaks them out they could be talking to fantasy-pedos, it means he's being A BIG MEANIE FACE. AND WE SHOULDNT BE SO SELFISH TO CLOSE OFF KIDS GETTING DICKED. MAN.

Dude. Take it standing up, then. But your disgust and shock at others not enjoying the idea someone fantasizes fucking kids shouldn't actually surprise you.

Sure.

You do you, man. Just keep your fantasies as they are: in your head.

Thanks!

Blind prejudice? Dude you don't know a thing about me or my history with people who have been associated the cub porn, so stop making these unfounded assumptions against me to support your case.

"Please spare us the moral hair splitting and kink shaming." I'm sorry, I didn't realize that the idea of me briefly saying that I don't like the idea of see visual representations of children being used as sexual objects on my own journal would be so offensive, I mean silly me for even dare thinking that seeing a little kid being raped is not pleasant. How rude of me. This is my opinion and I have solid grounds for it. Plus, I never preached that all people should go out and destroy all the cub porn and belittle all the people who enjoyed it, so stop acting like I did.

"Speaking such opinions so openly and freely has the power to affect and intimidate young, impressionable minds." So we should just suppress one opinion and just let your opinion be the only thing people are allowed to hear, eh? Dude, it's called freedom of speech and it exists for a reason. What you are promoting is the idea of censoring any opinions or ideas you don't like so you can be forever unchallenged on your views and interests, what a horrible place the world would be if that was ever the case.

"One person's abuse story does not mean we need to close the pool for everyone else." And when did we ever mention anything like that? I said I wanted to stay the hell away from cub porn as possible and was just warning people who want to do the same, I never intended for anyone to stop. If you want to enjoy cub porn, then whatever I'm not gonna stop you but just keep it the fuck away from me.

"If you applied the same rationale to general furry porn as you are applying to cub porn, then the general furry porn may as well be bestiality. " Bestiality is the equivalent of receiving a speeding ticket when compared to the harsh sentences of child pornography in a legal sense, plus it's legal to draw bestiality, it is however not legal to draw child pornography so don't compare the two, they are not in the same league.

"If Furry Network is based in the United States and viewed by users in the United States, then it's legal." Unless you have a link to a legal document or case that clearly states that anthropomorphized animals or humanoid characters are excluded from child pornography laws, then it's not proven legal. You're not a supreme court judge and nor am I, because of this neither of us truly know the actual boundaries of these laws are. If you believe it's then legal then fine, but I firmly believe it's illegal especially since I live in a country that has much tighter child protection laws than the USA. But do remember that even cartoonish pictures of minors count as pedophilla,( LINK: http://teh-fennec.tumblr.com/post/1.....from-comics-or )

I could go on further, but I won't. I really don't want to enter an argument at them moment. So I'll leave you with this, go off and enjoy your cub porn. I ain't gonna stop you or do anything about it, I don't care as long as you keep it away from me.

Well, I never said that I fully agreed with the laws, I just stated that they currently existed and that people need to be wary of them.

I'll respect your opinion that this stuff shouldn't be illegal as you did present some valid points, though one thing that I'm sure with can both agree on is that these laws desperately need to be more clearly defined so this grey area can be reduced in the future.

Sorry if I did come off as harsh in my previous reply, I do sometimes get a little carried away with things like this and it wasn't my intent to personal insult you in any way.

It's fine and that's good to know, I guess it's safe to say we have both learned something today.

Something worth taking a look at that was posted below FN's tweet you linked:

http://theconversation.com/when-a-d.....-in-jail-33418

That's very interesting read, and also goes to show how scary the grey area of these laws are.

Thanks for the link.

Welcome! :)

THAT'S MY BOY

shh mom, you're EMBARRASSING me in front of these NICE PEOPLE

Thought about FN but nope ^_^ i mean, you could probably find anything on here, but that's the artist's decision. for me cub pron is a big no no, if i really really want pron it has to have 18 and over characters obviously.

Why is it that all sites but FA has proven to fall out? FW is the only possible alternative so far for me.

Of course, I do consider cubs to be children so of course I'm not gonna want to see them in sexual situations.

And I know, why can't a website just duplicate what FA is doing and not add things we don't want. XD

XD i see them as kids too, and yeah i know right. I mean FA has its flaws obviously, but i havent found a website like it and most furry's and babyfurs tend to be on it! Plus there is art

Hehe, yep. All true.

First the news was that they weren't now it is that they are. That was quick and accomplished nothing.

Yeah, I guess it was due to a backlash maybe? I don't know, but I'm happy they did make that change.

Wait I didn't realize that. First I heard from other people that they were banning cub porn. Then I heard from you they were allowing it. But now I see in your comment section that they're allowing cub art but not porn.

*Throwing a freaking table*

JESUS CHRIST! Why people insist over this damn thing? I doesn't matter if is just a drawing, a chibi, a furry character that supposedly doesn't exist in real life... Nothing justifies cub porn. The figure, the image of a infantile or slightly older kid having sex is freaking wrong!

Just take the paws, tail and fur off... And then you have it an actual human being rather than a humanoid, tell me... WHAT DOES MAKE IT DIFFERENT FROM ACTUAL PEDOPHILIA? Let me answer, nothing. I don't care how much retarded people cry over this, a child isn't supposed to have sex. A child shouldn't even know the damn meaning of the word, but unfortunately they do!

Congratulations FN, you claim to create a large community to let furries and artist of all-kind express themselves, but I've one thing to say: there is a damn screaming difference between art and perversity; art and crime; art and poorly excuse to commit something that isn't acceptable at all.

Now if you excuse me, bye. I'm leaving FN because I don't tolerate this thing, and I don't have to.

I agree that I also despise cub porn for pretty much the same reasons as you, which is why I wrote this journal. Though FN did announce again that they changed their mind on the whole cub porn thing and it is now banned on FN (which I'm guessing is because of the backlash they got for it but who knows) so take that as what you will.

Well... If they took cub porn away... I might reconsider keep my account.

Fair enough.