Is Cyber Monday really "practically an official holiday"? Because this is literally the first I've heard of such a notion.

its the equivalent of "Black Friday" which in itself folks actually would camp out right after thanksgiving to get those "discounts"...you know due to not realizing some of that stuff was marked up the days leading up to black friday

Well tis all just seems like real BS. Granted those guys are only going to stir deep anger if they try anything. People will do terrible things if they attempt to act out anything of any sort.

That's the thing: under normal circumstances people wouldn't fall for this shit. But their plan is to gently beat it into people's head that "censorship is good for you, and we're doing it for your children!" from several different sources then eventually they'll just cave. It's a long term strategy.

They say the same shit about video games :U

Parents should just take responsibility and set up ways to block their kids from accessing certain sites. Seems like it's all about control more than anything.

We've had these problems for decades, and over a wide variety of subjects. Brainwashing and other curbing of the mass's opinions is a slow, but sure process. There are countless things that are wrong with this country, but this form of mental curbing and, essentially programming are by far the worst. I don't imagine that anything will come of it, as long as we all still display our awareness and aversion to it.

I can;t help but think the recent resurgence in SJWs is also part of this.

Not that they didnt exist before the internet, of course. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n1tFbZ5kaY8

Yeah but problem is generations are changing as we speak, there's more people who know what's up more than ever, it's not like before where yes you could scare people into censoring the bollocks out of everything in a post 911 world.

Not saying nothing bad will happen, it very well could. But I don't think it'll last.

I want to believe that, and then I log on to Tumblr...

Tumblr is a cesspool of bratty teenager clicktivists who believe the truth comes from groupthink and not facts or research. Reactionary and hostile to anything that doesn't conform to liberal values and actively censoring anything deemed "problematic" They are not the majority, frankly, I'd stay away from tumblr with those sorts of things =p You can tell most of them have either ulterior motives or are just there because they can't make real friends.

I would like to know who made them Der Grande Highe Arbiter of what is or isn't "legitimate content."


The MPAA needs to be broken up and left to rot in the ditch beside the roadway of history.

and then we go "I didnt know we wanted to be like china...."

This is the China you chose! <Doom Paul>

Remember to give your fiancé a diamond worth two months salary on valentine's day! It's tradition.

Oh god! Probably an even better example than Cyber Monday, lol!

Goddamn, this is why I hate mega corporations so much. Rather than produce content worth paying for, they just destroy everything else that can compete. I can't wait for these companies to collapse under their own greed.

...Yeah, I hate censorship.

Well, obviously

they really are pulling all the stops this year

CISA
the orphan copyright bill
ICAAN stuff

and of course, the TPP. which may be the root of all of this, when i think about it.

"Kids are one-click away from graphic porn..."

Replace the word "kids" with "adults", and you have the true reason the Internet is existing today!!!! Wake up, prudes - You won't stop E-porn!

That should be every cautious parent's job - not a government's job - to use filters and passwords on their own PC...I know, that I am asking a lot, but those parents could be asking around at their kid's friends, to see if their parents are careful about unchecked internet usage as well!

But this seems totally useless too. Once a kid is age-appropriate, it's unlimited porn time! You can't stop Porn! You just can't!

And to answer the question in the title: It was, but We have fought and won!
http://www.furaffinity.net/journal/6217391/
Want Internet Tax? Nope! ->
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http://m.cdn.blog.hu/re/republikon/.....ge/netad01.jpg

BTW, this is something I should have emphasized since it relates to this site specifically.

"Oh look, kids looking for pictures of Sven from Frozen might accidentally run into this sites called Furaffinity and would be only one click away from porn! Time to hit that block worldwide button!"

Porn sites are a must...sorta'! It's a parent's job to keep their kids pure and innocent! <- Now that sounds as stupid as impossible too!

"Sven from Frozen"? Just type in MLP:FiM or Pokemon! Porn galore! <- And it is good so!

Well it said, block US site seeking so...

Sucks to be you, americano. :o

In all honesty though, I mean stuff like this is going on for a long time now, not just with internet but many other aspects. Often enough it gets uncovered, like this, most often not.

Not much YOU or ME can do about it.

I've never really understood what was so terrifying about kids stumbling across generic porn stuff anyway.

If they're little they won't understand or won't be interested, and you'll just have a few awkward questions that you can probably handwave away.

If they're older then there's absolutely nothing you can do to stop them from looking it up again.

Coddled kids are how we ended up with retarded shit like "safe spaces".

While I don't like to over-protect kids myself, I do not want them to look at guro, yandere, and other crazy stuff, not to mention journals about war, murder, rape, and bestiality! <- Any minor reading this...don't google those words!

I don't have any problem with free Internet surfing, as long as one can choose a healthy content, or just pursuing their own fairly-normal hobbies/interests...

But little kids watching goatse...nope!

But generic porn...I don't think that is harmful at all for kids...but I think a child-psychiatrist would argue with me on that!

Thanks for giving us a heads up on this, dude. I will definitely keep this in mind.

wut.

Since when is google even TRYING to resist demands to block content. That's 99% of what they do already.

Don't get me wrong, this is a real and serious issue. Just, if google is our fucking champion here, then just kill me now because we're already too far gone.

Lol, I felt this way when Jack Thompson started sounding reasonable in the face of all these new anti-game crusaders.

What is this junk? Should I even care?

No, I just need enough people around you to care so that they keep bringing it up often to try and spread the word, until the people that say "why should I care" start saying "Dear god shut the fuck up already!" I'm hoping at that point it will be a successful campaign.

BTW, can I interest you in joining the #Gamergate movement?

You are SO hilarious. I doubt I have to worry about my internet.

Propaganda has been in heavy use against us all for many years, and it works. Goebbels would be proud.

Somewhere there is a man in Dr. Claw's chair petting a cat.

Marketing bullshit did not convince anyone in the US to give up their gun rights, people won't be giving up their first amendment rights just because a load of idiots that disagree with them try to tell them freedom of speech is bad. It's always far to easy to simply say that if we're yanking some first amendment rights, we'll start with the right to speak out against the first amendment and end the whole retarded debate.

Well vigilance is part of it. Remember how the whole net neutrality thing played out. Most people didn't really understand what net neutrality was. The ISPs touted it as "We're going to make a fast lane on the internet! You like Netflix right? What if we made Netflix faster, you'd like that right? You're gonna be so happy with this!" And it took months of explaining to the public exactly what kind of impact this would have. I imagine this fight being fairly similar, maybe even more difficult if the media outlets start colluding the way they appear to want them to.

The trouble with that statement is the very thing that tanked the last attempt to censor the internet. They actually tried doing it without really telling people what they were doing, they did what they planned, and people noticed immediately how full of shit they were. People haven't forgotten the last time just yet, and now it's getting around they're trying again there will be plenty of politicians who are about to find themselves replaced because they can't get a simple message into their thick skulls.

I'm not saying we don't need to maintain vigilance on this matter, only that when it comes to the 1st 2nd and 5th amendments even the least educated citizens know their rights and are quick to point out political bullshit that tries to contradict them.

Also, I want to stress that anytime someone starts talking about anything that would give them the right to censor content based upon their personal criteria the first thing that needs to be said is, "Then first we are passing a bill that prohibits discussion of abridging the first amendment, since apparently you think censorship is good you can have no objection." When they complain you point out that their argument holds less constitutional backing than the above, so if we're passing crazy bills it has first dibs.

MPAA needs to die now.

Look at how many people now believe that guns are evil demons that will hurt or kill people just by existing.

This belief is entirely due to multi platform propaganda hammering away for decades.

Gunes are just tools... in no way different from a power drill, hammer or kitchen knife.
But many people now panic at the mere thought of a gun in the same city block as themselves.

And why is that?
Why such unreasoning, kneejerk terror?

They are quick to spout the slogans and buzzwords that assert that guns kill people....But do they do so simply by sitting on a table?
Of course not.
But many people are as terrified of guns as they are of venomous snakes.

Think about that for a moment.
Are you terrified that a car will spontaneously roll up onto a sidewalk and kill you?
More people die in auto accidents every year worldwide than are killed by guns.

If cars kill more people than guns...Why aren't they more afraid of cars than guns?
Because you have not been taught to be afraid of cars...Thats why.

Talking people into accepting internet censorship is the same thing.
If its done long enough and hard enough, from enough different platforms...People will start to think that some censorship is a good thing.
And then it becomes a normal part of your life until you don't question site blocking anymore.

50 years ago, nearly every household in America had guns and no one thought anything of it.
Do you own a gun now?
Do you avoid owning one because they make you uncomfortable? Afraid others may judge you for being a gun owner?


Propaganda and social engineering are powerful and subtle things.
So subtle that you probably never noticed the effect until someone points it out to you.

And so we are being slowly herded into the life of a domestic animal...To be harvested when those who feel they own us decide its time.

-Badger-

50 years ago, nearly every household in America had guns and no one thought anything of it.

After reading this I have a Question.

Did any company in particular or the government itself profit in any way from the fact that this is no longer the case?

Because I can certainly see who would profit from internet censorship. But I can't see why anyone would profit by "demonizing" guns for a few decades until it isn't so "mainstream".

Now I don't live in the USA, so "gun culture" is pretty alien to me.
But if I'm reading your comment correctly , you imply that the fact there ISN'T a gun in every household anymore is the result of slow and long term propaganda campaign?

Thus if it is a conspiracy , I'm curious to know who would stand to gain from it.





Also kind of unrelated but regarding this particular point :

If cars kill more people than guns...Why aren't they more afraid of cars than guns?

Personally, I need a car to get to work, or shop for groceries or any other kind of errand that requires traveling long distances , I take it upon myself to drive as safely as possible always. I guess I could justify driving/owing a car as a being a necessity in my life.
But I can't see any justification I could have for owning a gun in my current life. But like I said, I don't live in America, and I understand it's a different culture by itself. I can respect that , and I certainly love to learn more about any culture. Hence the first part of my comment.

The home security industry. Fewer armed homeowners = bolder criminals = unarmed homeowners ponying up for security systems & monitoring.

And that's just what I came up with in five seconds.

Huh. Guess it really comes down to the culture then. Because for someone like me who lives in a place where guns are really really rare, the fear of getting robbed is no where high enough for most people to invest on home-security. Unless I guess , you are really really really stinking rich.

Crime is far rarer here in the US than the media would have someone believe, actually.

The mega rich are also in no real danger, as they live behind walls of profuse police presence, private security and gated communities.

Its the poorer folks who need to have a means to protect themselves.

But the media also does not report uses of guns for personal defense...Because its not "newsworthy".

But we are getting off topic again....

-Badger-

Far rarer, but equal-opportunity.

My next door neighbor's house was robbed. All his electronic goodies stolen. Probably to pay for some addict's habit.

A cop was shot in the face on a traffic stop two blocks north of here. The entire neighborhood was locked down for an afternoon while cops searched for where the shooter ran off to. I was sitting in my living room with a shotgun, in case a desperate criminal decided my house was the one he wanted to burst into to hide from pursuit. I think he was caught hiding in some bushes, but what if he had decided my other next door neighbor, a harmless little old lady who can barely lift the hose to put out her sprinkler, was the place to hide?

Now the police are looking for someone who is randomly driving up to houses in the middle of the night, setting them on fire, and driving away.

Evil exists, even if it isn't common. It is the duty of all good men to be ready to stand against it.

Simple answer.
It is easier to assertt control over people who are unable to defend themselves..And far easier to intimidate people who gather to protest if they know they have no option to resist if the police use force upon them.

The question of "who profits" has no simple answer.
However. historically, when only knights and nobles were armed....It was easy to rob the peasants of their worldly goods and money.

My own experiences, is that bullies fear retaliation, and become less aggressive when they know the intended victim can fight back, or has an equalizer.
The equalizer need not be a gun.
A large dog on a leash will discourage most bullies.

For Americans, private ownership of firearms is the large dog on the leash to the government.

The fact that so many Americans are armed discourages most attempts to abuse their power openly.

There are other points, but I do not wish to spam this journal with pages of text.
(Nor do I have time...)

Everyone finds other countries to have alien culture customs.
Normally, we accept the idea "They are different" and move on.

Gun ownership in the US seems to be one of those things where people from other countries make comments and want to impose their ideas upon the US for banning them.
But who calls for banning guns in Switzerland? Or Israel? Or the Scandinavian countries?

The only time I ever see people from other countries calling for a ban on guns in someone else's country is...The US.

And why is that?
Why do people in other countries even care about guns in the US?

Could it be that international mass media makes them think that guns should be outlawed in what is for them a foreign, sovereign country in which they have no right to demand changes to the law?

Wouldn't this be like Americans demanding that other countries change their laws to satisfy American values?

Does the US have a right to come to your country and demand that you change your national language to English?

of course not.
And by the same token, citizens from other countries have no right to demand that the US junk its constitution and change its laws for the sake of their opinion.

The only reason its an issue is the efforts of the worldwide mass media to control public opinion.

-Badger-

Gun ownership in the US seems to be one of those things where people from other countries make comments and want to impose their ideas upon the US for banning them.
But who calls for banning guns in Switzerland? Or Israel? Or the Scandinavian countries?

The only time I ever see people from other countries calling for a ban on guns in someone else's country is...The US.

And why is that?
Why do people in other countries even care about guns in the US?

My personal theory on the "Why are the USA always the target of so much criticism from other countries?" is that the USA and more importantly the American culture is so widespread throughout the world, mostly through the media (who as never heard of "the American way of life" or "the american dream"?) that it as earned itself a place in the spotlight in the eyes of the world, whether it wants to or not. The fact America sometimes/often considers itself "the best" or certainly doesn't help outsiders NOT pointing out any potential problem/defect they see from their own perspective.

You could see it as someone "asking for trouble" broadcasting the "their way" as the "best way" for so long that people can't help but call you out on it. whether justified or not. Being "popular" isn't as fun a most people think! =P

Guns are unquestionably a TOTALLY different issue here. Yeah they're just a tool, but a power drill or a kitchen knife is not designed with killing as its explicit purpose.

I don't care what you say, I don't want anyone with a gun being anywhere within ten miles of me EVER. They make killing so easy that a baby can literally kill you with one BY ACCIDENT. I just don't have the choice to live a gun-free life and nobody ever will again for the remainder of human civilization. Inventing firearms was opening pandora's box and we can't ever close it again. They're a terrible, horrible thing but getting rid of them is just literally impossible, so now we have to live with them just like we have to live with nuclear weapons and armed drones.

It's very probably going to be exactly that problem that ends our species. We can't disarm because as soon as we do we get overthrown by the people who choose not to disarm, and the people who choose not to are universally going to be worse. Today it's guns. Tomorrow it'll be gun-drones. Another hundred years and everyone will have the right to their own terminator, another hundred and everyone will have the right to their own nuclear warhead. We're REALLY DAMN CLOSE today to single individuals having the capacity to level entire cities. How long until one single seriously-disturbed person has the power in his hands to annihilate us all, anytime they please?

No, I don't have a solution to this problem. I'm just not willing to listen to someone say "Fear of guns is all propaganda". I am terrified of guns because I'm terrified of other people being able to kill me on a whim from a distance before I even know they're there. That is a RATIONAL FEAR. People are ASSHOLES and you cannot trust ANY of them.

I'd rather have guns be available to me as an equalizer than risk being set upon by "unarmed" thugs twice my size with actual arms the size of Trump's ego and me similarly "unarmed" and unable to defend myself.


Yeah, they can be deadly. But when everybody is equally deadly, everybody has a fair chance to defend themselves.

History is full of examples of unarmed people slaughtered by those more physically powerful. Many of those examples predate guns. And history. :p


You can still be taken by surprise, with or without firearms. That's always been true. Always will be. I'll take whatever tools I can get to defend myself. :)

I still say screw that. I'll work out. I'll practise martial arts. I'll have escape routes and hiding places. I'll take ANY other solution. Fat lot of good your "equalizer" will do when you'll be flat-out dead before you even hear the gunshot.

The more guns you have around, the more gun-related accidents will occur. I've never heard of somebody tripping and impaling themselves on an arrow, or accidentally cutting their own head off with a sword. Not to mention, god forbid, it's a lot easier to commit suicide with a gun than a knife. Besides, the people killed in gun accidents are usually innocent bystanders who didn't even choose to have a gun in the first place. You're saying you're willing to accept that death toll, just so things might be a bit more "equal" on the off chance somebody comes to kill you? If someone is insane and determined enough to actually come to kill you, they're probably going to succeed no matter how well armed you are because unless they're an idiot, they'll get the first shot off and that'll be all that matters.

I repeat my previous point, guns just make it too damn easy. If you take a crossbow into a crowded mall and start shooting people, you're not going to take out nearly as many people before someone stops you as you would with an AK47. If somebody wants to kill me I want them to at least have to WORK for it dammit!!

A lot of different subjects in there. I'll try to hit them all. ;) Then let's cool it, this is going a little off topic :)

1. Not everyone has the option of being a martial arts master. Sometimes they are just physically incapable of it, sometimes they just don't have the time because they have to slave away for their corporate overlords 80+ hours a week and barely have time to take care of their families (if any) outside of that.

2. The more cars you have around, the more car-related accidents will occur. I've never heard of somebody tripping and impaling themselves on their car keys, or accidentally running themselves over with a Miata. Not to mention, god forbid, it's a lot easier to commit suicide with a car than a horse. Besides, the people killed in car accidents are usually innocent bystanders who didn't even choose to have a car accident in the first place. You're saying you're willing to accept that death toll, just so travel might be a bit more "convenient" in the off chance somebody needs to get from Point A to Point B quickly?

2b. Guns are tools, like any other. Almost ANY tool, misused, is dangerous. Punish the misuse, not the tool. Banning one tool just means a different one will be misused. The VAST majority of firearms are never involved in an "accident," fatal or not. And if every gun on the planet was suddenly abducted by aliens, a guy could still strap an air compressor to his back and walk around blasting at folks with an air nailer, or blinding them with a laser, or any number of other horrible things. Evil people are not stopped by laws. They are stopped by people defending themselves.

2c. You clearly have never heard the old jokes about novice swordsmen cutting their own feet off, or being more dangerous to their allies than to their enemies. And I'm pretty sure someone, somewhen, has, in fact, tripped and fallen and impaled themselves on an arrow. There's a reason we tell kids not to run with scissors (or any pointy object, really!)

3. I LIVE in a town where there was a mall shooting a couple years ago. I was working just a few blocks away from there. So I, thank you, will be the one who decides whether or not I want to be able to defend myself if, "god forbid," I'm ever even closer to a Bad Person than that. I'm not a fan of the NRA's hyperbole, but there is some truth to the idea that gun free zones are shooting galleries.

You never saw one-man mass shootings in the wild west. It took a whole gang, because the towns shot back. Nowadays, we're all running around like lemmings, oblivious to what goes on around us until suddenly reality decides to force us to face its ugly side. Be prepared for the worst, and you may never even be aware that you prevented it just by being ready. :)

Hey, at least you're willing to HAVE a discussion, unlike someone else I could name.

1. Not everybody has fingers to pull a trigger either. Not everyone has the mental stability to own a gun in the first place without killing themselves or someone undeserving. At some level, there will always be people who require assistance and/or protection in order to be "safe".

2. Not a fair comparison, especially considering I never said cars are a good thing or even that I want them to exist at all either. A really good public transit system could render them obsolete altogether, and would definitely reduce fatalities. Just like guns, though, we cannot go back to a world without them, and you can't opt-out of interacting with them. Even if you ride a horse-wagon everywhere some dick in a car will probably still crash into you someday, like happened near my home just recently. I am not willing to accept that death toll but I am not given a choice.

2b. The VAST majority of nuclear weapons are never detonated in a major city either. Does that mean the occasional Hiroshima is okay?

"Evil" people are frequently stopped by the police. The police also stop a lot of innocent people, I'm not saying I like them, but that IS their exact job. If they don't do it, that is a separate problem. If you, like the other guy, want to justfy the existence of guns by saying we might need them to resist our own government, keep in mind: I'm not arguing against having one in today's world, I'm arguing against them existing at all. Fighting "the man" would be the same with or without 'em.

Finally, I never said I particularly enjoy air nailers existing either. Their sheer capacity to kill instantly at a distance IS disturbing, but good luck concealing one in your pocket along with enough compressed gas to get more than a couple shots off.

2c. Yes everything has risk. Fact remains a baby is not going to pick up your sword and kill you with it, even if they might cut themselves. Yes a good gun owner never leaves their gun loaded or unlocked, but everyone makes mistakes.

3. a) Remember I'm advocating a world without guns, not a world where only criminals and police have guns.

b) No, you will not decide how the world is run just because you were near a shooting, thank you very much. We have an obligation to make decisions on what is rational and best for everyone, not on what individual people feel they need in order to protect themselves. I feel I should get to have a collar around everyone's neck that kills them whenever I press a button, because I've been abused and had people try to kill me in the past and now I feel that I can't trust anyone. Do you think I should get to have it? That's funny, why not? Same damn thing as a gun, really.

Finally, if you dig up some statistics, I'm sure you'll find that the number of fatalities by gun accidents is far greater than the number of justifiable shootings in the name of self-defense. Is your one successful defense worth it if it costs two deaths by accident? How about three? Ten? Where do you draw that line?

I would finally like to repeat my earlier statement that I DO NOT have solutions to our modern world. I do not know of a way we can coexist with guns and bombs any more than I know a way to get rid of them.

All I have been saying is that I am afraid of guns because of the convenient and unreasonable power they give people, and that that feeling is the result of a perfectly natural fear of death and not some bullshit propaganda campaign that I have never even really been exposed to. I do not and will never trust other people not to kill me. I am terrified driving on the highway, I am terrified next to people holding guns, I am terrified on an airplane where I have to trust that the maintenance personnel didn't get lazy. I am fucking afraid of people. I want them to have LESS individual power, not more. I do not WANT to have to own a gun just so that I'm not at the mercy of everyone else in my neighborhood. I have been through the training courses but I don't even trust MYSELF to keep one safely. Not the least of which because I struggle with depression and I don't want that fucking thing tempting me with a quick death if I someday find myself in a state of despair I can't handle.

All I am saying is, when somebody comes to kill me, I want to see them coming before I'm dead and I want the CHANCE to defend myself, however feebly. In a world with guns I will never have that chance because it will be over before I'm even aware said person was armed. The moment anyone wants me dead more than they want to live outside a prison, I am dead, end of story. No amount of guns on my person or anyone else's will stop that. At best it might ensure the murderer dies too. At worst, somebody panics trying to respond and kills yet another innocent person.

Thank you for so completely proving my point.

The issue under discussion has nothing to do with guns at all.
The issue is entirely about how opinion has been engineered and changed through pressure generated by the politically powerful.



Your unreasoning terror of guns, in which you use the most common propaganda slogan so prominently illustrates the effectiveness of the mass media campaign to demonize guns and create a climate of fear and terror around them.

The rational answer is that a person who wants to kill people can do so with literally anything that comes to hand.
Guns are completely unnecessary if someone has already decided they are going to kill.

Just as an example- Japan has incredibly strict gun control...But leads the world in murders and suicides committed with edged weapons.

It is absolutely clear that I will not get through your wall of irrational fear over guns, and I never intended to.

Guns were merely the first example that came to hand over the real subject-
The power of mass media to influence and control people's perceptions and beliefs without them realizing it has happened.

Had I had a different example immediately available I would have used it as an additional point.

I intended to make you think about whether your opinion is the one you came to yourself...Or was it the opinion you have been told you should have?

The discussion in the original thread is actually over a concentrated effort to convince people that it is okay to censor the internet, and eventually to ban sites that some powerful person or group decides should not be seen or allowed a voice.

Please notice carefully, that at no time in this thread have I expressed an opinion over whether or not someone should own a gun or whether they should be legal or illegal.
You decided that I was advocating..But did you really read what I wrote before you decided that?

No anger.
No chest beating over "I'm right!!"
Simple observation and pointing out of facts to show that our opinions can be slyly manipulated without our knowledge.

-Badger-

Stop implying my opinion of guns has anything to do with propaganda. You are incorrect and downright insulting. My fear is not irrational, my opinions are my own, end of story. I will ignore everything you say until you acknowledge that.

Proved my point again.

-Badger-

Now you're just being a complete and total cunt and you know it.

Thanks for giving me an excuse to never care what you think ever again.

And who is being abusive here?

Have I called you names?

Have I demanded your submission to my opinions?

Nope.

You need to learn that other people's opinions are as valid as yours.

Oh- and learn to actually read and understand what other people say, instead of putting words in their mouth.


-Badger-

I'll learn to read after you do, prick, you clearly didn't understand one word of what I said in the first place. You didn't even bother to demand submission, you skipped straight to claiming victory. Your opinion of what is inside my fucking brain IS INVALID and you know NOTHING about it. Fuck you and go to hell!

Consider yourself blocked for life.

... and now I regret taking the time to give you a thorough and reasonable reply, after I scroll down and see you mocking me.

The fact that you call what he said rational just because you share his opinion on guns speaks volumes. Good to know all my time just now was totally wasted.

Khaz You did that to yourself with your choice of language. Once people see you resort to that, their only thought is going to be that you are an irrational person. It doesn't even matter if your side is the correct side, you only do it a disservice by resorting to profanities.

Whether or not my side is the correct side is the ONLY THING THAT MATTERS.

And I'm not even talking about the gun discussion. I'm talking about Ironbadger declaring that he knows me better than I do, which is categorically false and hilariously offensive. I am right about that, he is wrong. End of *ahem* FUCKING story.

It's not irrational, it's not "knee-jerk", it is an opinion that has been considered and reconsidered and researched over the course of my entire life AND I NEVER SAID I WANT IT BANNED - YOU DID NOT READ OR UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID.

You're starting to become just as much of a cunt as he was. You two make a fucking perfect couple.

Sad but true.

-Badger-

These evil bastards just never stop.

And there was much arrogance and blocking for want of an intelligent reply to a reasonable observation.


-Badger-

Coming back and seeing shit like this just makes me proud I blocked you.

As long as you keep insisting you know my mind better than I do, when you have no clue who I even am, you remain a complete and total cunt and do not merit an "intelligent reply". I hope you learn from your mistake.

Some people just can't handle anonymity and end up pulling stuff like that instead. I'd bet good money that would not have gone the same way if this had happened in public and in person.

* Building the record (and telling the story) that the sorts of sites at issue are dangerous. It is not just copyright infringement. Kids are one-click away from identity theft, graphic porn, malware, etc. Parent groups, consumer protection groups and other third parties can be cultivated to speak out against such predatory sites.

// This is by far the most laudible statement. One click away from identity theft (facebook), graphic porn (not illegitimate content, this is just grabbing for peoples' emotions), malware (which is bundled with "free" legitimate content. It is free because they are selling ads instead of subscription).

And again, my point is so proven by fanatical lunatic person who froths, brags over blocking me, and yet is so desperate for attention that he comes back and spews his venom again.

-Badger-

'bout time you blocked me back. See you in hell, dick, enjoy being wrong.

Sorry Ajin, didn't mean to fuck your journal comments to hell. I'll try to to ignore people like him next time.

Dunno, I honestly think your sudden outburst of profanities is a bigger fuck up than a calm discussion of points. Maybe if you had decided to debate the topic in a calm manner instead of jumping into profanities things would have gone differently. But then that would require effort and well thought out posts.

I've spent enough of my life trying to remain calm in the face of offensive asshats that want to tell me who I am and what I think. Calm or not, he demonstrated he is unwilling to have a reasonable conversation on the subject so he can fuck off. I don't have anything to fucking prove here. He doesn't warrant consideration solely because he disagrees with me. If he or you or anybody else wants to think my point is invalid just because it contains profanity then, by all means, go ahead and be wrong.

My first post was well-thought-out and he ignored it. I do not owe him a second one until he addresses the first one properly. The ball was and still remains in his court.

Even if you are right, buy resorting to crass language you only ruin your own credibility. It makes you look like someone who can't take someone else's side and can only resort to raging instead of discussion.

Frankly, I don't care to get to know anybody who would judge me based on what I "look like" rather than what I have to say, and I don't care what they think about me either. Such people are not worth it.

If they are not worth it then why even bother with slinging profanities at them? Seems like a waste of time that only makes yourself look worse.

GOOD QUESTION. Response: xkcd.com/386/

Oh great more SOPA/PIPA/ACTA type shit.

time to ask the activists to knock these corporate morons down a peg or two...............again.

Maybe this was all part of their plan. Something bigger they don't want us knowing about.

Whether it's true or not or whatever, after all the "stop this bill, and this bill" stuff I've honestly just lost the will to fight and don't even care what happens anymore. If walls get put up, people will find ways to break them down. They always do.

"Maybe this was all part of their plan. Something bigger they don't want us knowing about."

If this deal falls through, will they die?

That Sony, I knew it was them! Even when it was the MPAA, I knew it was them!

Ajin, you're the best.