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The Marvel vs Capcom 3 Roster...WTF?
15 years ago
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Ladies and gentlemen it's time for me to get on my podium and do some bitching.
Withing the last several hours of posting this journal, Capcom has announced two more characters to the MvC3 roster and pulled down a supposed leaked image revealing a character prematurely. This wouldn't be huge news if not for the fact it adds a lot of legitimacy to an alleged complete roster list that was leaked in November.
Now, on the whole I've been really happy with the roster for the most part. It's been a good mix of icon from both sides as well as more niche inclusions, particularly on the Capcom side. However there have been a handful of inclusions which just annoy me. Some flat out piss me off. I could complain about who I think should be in but everybody has their favorites so listing my picks seems moot. I'm simply going to complain about characters whose inclusion is completely irredeemable in my eyes. This is also under the assumption this leaked roster is true but as such I'm going to list fighters depending on if they've been officially confirmed or not.
Confirmed
- X-23: For all intents and purposes she looks like a female Wolverive. Martial artist with claws. We already have that. It's not that she's unpopular. She's kind of like Harley Quinn in that she made the jump from a TV adaption to comic. She's popular enough. It's just we already have a fighter with the same kind of fighting aesthetic. We don't need two slashy claw fighters. The only thing X-23 brings is another X chromosome. If the game was going to have a female assassin martial artist why not get more variety and go for Psylocke or Electra?
- Shuma-Gorath: I will never understand how this guy got into games to begin with. He's obscure even for comic enthusiasts. He's a Doctor Strange villain who I think showed up maybe twice. I mean shit, Dormammu is less obscure. Why waste space on a guy like this? And a DLC slot no less. You're paying for this random piece of crap.
- Trish: I'm ecstatic Devil May Cry is getting repped but it only needed Dante and he was revealed early. Trish's style is being completely pulled out the ass since the one time we saw her fight she looked like someone else completely and didn't even use the Sparda sword. If you're going to make a character from scratch why not make one from an unrepresented series? I hate her inclusion because it was a wasted opportunity.
- Jill: Any Resident Evil character who isn't a monster will fall into one of two categories with fighting style: Brawling plus weapons or wire-fu martial arts. Chris fits the first role, Wesker fits the second. There is literally nothing Jill can bring to the table that hasn't already been covered. To add insult to injury this is the third representative not from the RE series, but a single game in the series. You couldn't even mix it up and maybe pick Ada or Claire? It had to be Jill specifically from RE5? The series didn't need three reps. RE5 sure as hell didn't need three reps especially since it was only okay. Oh, and just to rub salt and lemon juice in the injury you got prior to the insult her RE5 appearance looks like fucking Nina Williams. Dammit Capcom! Save that shit for your Tekken crossover.
Unconfirmed
- Sentinel: I really wish the leaked list was being coy with this name and was actually referring to Bastion or Omega Sentinel but it's not. It's talking about the fucking giant mass produced robot with absolutely zero personality. The one and only possible reason this thing could be coming back for MvC3 is because Sentinel was one of the infamous "God Tier" characters of MvC2 which is absolutely the stupidest reason to include a character in this game.
- Hsien-Ko in addition to Felicia and Morrigan: This is more anger at the principle of the thing than the character herself. I like every character in Darkstalkers. What I don't like is when a crossover is called for how these three are always first in line to rep the series for no other merit other than the moe factor. Morrigan is the exception obviously since she's the flagship character but still. It's been the trend for far too long. These three stand before all others in the Darkstalkers series when it comes to appearances despite the fact most all the characters have sizable fanbases. Three Darkstalkers in MvC3 and not one could have been a person outside this trinity? You couldn't throw a bone to the Talbain, Raptor or Demitri fans? It's especially infuriating when you read in an interview they seriously considered putting the extremely awesome Donovan on the roster but he was cut near the end. Fuck!
- Akuma: I'm fine with another street fighter. Hell, I wanted another one. Capcom villains are woefully underrepresented and adding the iconic Bison would have been a good move in my opinion. So what do we get? Akuma, another fucking shoto-clone. Goddammit!!!
I hope the DLC is good. I really do because the complete lack of any Megaman is mind-blowingy criminal to the spirit of this kind of game.
Withing the last several hours of posting this journal, Capcom has announced two more characters to the MvC3 roster and pulled down a supposed leaked image revealing a character prematurely. This wouldn't be huge news if not for the fact it adds a lot of legitimacy to an alleged complete roster list that was leaked in November.
Now, on the whole I've been really happy with the roster for the most part. It's been a good mix of icon from both sides as well as more niche inclusions, particularly on the Capcom side. However there have been a handful of inclusions which just annoy me. Some flat out piss me off. I could complain about who I think should be in but everybody has their favorites so listing my picks seems moot. I'm simply going to complain about characters whose inclusion is completely irredeemable in my eyes. This is also under the assumption this leaked roster is true but as such I'm going to list fighters depending on if they've been officially confirmed or not.
Confirmed
- X-23: For all intents and purposes she looks like a female Wolverive. Martial artist with claws. We already have that. It's not that she's unpopular. She's kind of like Harley Quinn in that she made the jump from a TV adaption to comic. She's popular enough. It's just we already have a fighter with the same kind of fighting aesthetic. We don't need two slashy claw fighters. The only thing X-23 brings is another X chromosome. If the game was going to have a female assassin martial artist why not get more variety and go for Psylocke or Electra?
- Shuma-Gorath: I will never understand how this guy got into games to begin with. He's obscure even for comic enthusiasts. He's a Doctor Strange villain who I think showed up maybe twice. I mean shit, Dormammu is less obscure. Why waste space on a guy like this? And a DLC slot no less. You're paying for this random piece of crap.
- Trish: I'm ecstatic Devil May Cry is getting repped but it only needed Dante and he was revealed early. Trish's style is being completely pulled out the ass since the one time we saw her fight she looked like someone else completely and didn't even use the Sparda sword. If you're going to make a character from scratch why not make one from an unrepresented series? I hate her inclusion because it was a wasted opportunity.
- Jill: Any Resident Evil character who isn't a monster will fall into one of two categories with fighting style: Brawling plus weapons or wire-fu martial arts. Chris fits the first role, Wesker fits the second. There is literally nothing Jill can bring to the table that hasn't already been covered. To add insult to injury this is the third representative not from the RE series, but a single game in the series. You couldn't even mix it up and maybe pick Ada or Claire? It had to be Jill specifically from RE5? The series didn't need three reps. RE5 sure as hell didn't need three reps especially since it was only okay. Oh, and just to rub salt and lemon juice in the injury you got prior to the insult her RE5 appearance looks like fucking Nina Williams. Dammit Capcom! Save that shit for your Tekken crossover.
Unconfirmed
- Sentinel: I really wish the leaked list was being coy with this name and was actually referring to Bastion or Omega Sentinel but it's not. It's talking about the fucking giant mass produced robot with absolutely zero personality. The one and only possible reason this thing could be coming back for MvC3 is because Sentinel was one of the infamous "God Tier" characters of MvC2 which is absolutely the stupidest reason to include a character in this game.
- Hsien-Ko in addition to Felicia and Morrigan: This is more anger at the principle of the thing than the character herself. I like every character in Darkstalkers. What I don't like is when a crossover is called for how these three are always first in line to rep the series for no other merit other than the moe factor. Morrigan is the exception obviously since she's the flagship character but still. It's been the trend for far too long. These three stand before all others in the Darkstalkers series when it comes to appearances despite the fact most all the characters have sizable fanbases. Three Darkstalkers in MvC3 and not one could have been a person outside this trinity? You couldn't throw a bone to the Talbain, Raptor or Demitri fans? It's especially infuriating when you read in an interview they seriously considered putting the extremely awesome Donovan on the roster but he was cut near the end. Fuck!
- Akuma: I'm fine with another street fighter. Hell, I wanted another one. Capcom villains are woefully underrepresented and adding the iconic Bison would have been a good move in my opinion. So what do we get? Akuma, another fucking shoto-clone. Goddammit!!!
I hope the DLC is good. I really do because the complete lack of any Megaman is mind-blowingy criminal to the spirit of this kind of game.
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-Strider Hiryu
-Captain Commando (The ORIGINAL freaking Cap-Com mascot!)
-Mega Man (and why couldn't X finally get some shining moment in a fighting game finally?!)
-And just like you... Jon Talbain. The only reason he missed on MvC2 was because Ruby Heart (WHY DOES SHE EVEN EXIST?) essentially has the same, entire special move set as he does, aside from her hyper combos. Bad deal if you ask me...
-Captain Commando would have been cool no doubt but I personally can live without him considering we're getting guys like Arthur and Spencer
-No arguments here. No blue bomber is absurd.
-Talbain for whatever reason seems unpopular in Japan yet is very popular in the west. He needs more exposure though. What's not awesome about a Bruce Lee werewolf?
As to why Talbain isn't popular that just seems rather odd given all the other attention wolves are getting lately. I mean Capcom's other game Monster Hunter Freedom 3 has as its signature monster a wolf styled dragon hybrid. Maybe they didn't want to detract from Okami's character either? (though I think they are supposed to be kitsune).
I got a demo from Xbox magazine about a week ago and on the demo was some games (i suppose for Xbox arcade) and there was two games that i liked; serious sam and lost planet 2
those games were AWSOME!! All ihave to do now is sign up for Xbox live and ill be good to go
What do you think of those two?
I cant really get the hang of those fighting games; I have street fighter 4, but I cant figure out how the controls work, even with the manual
Just to say, I think im a button masher X3
In effect I guess this game has a large Smurfette principle going on. for every male character there will be an equaled representative. For Wolverine there's x-23, for Hulk there, she hulk(who I'm quite excited for to be honest), And for Chris there's Jill. Though Jill was in marvel vs Capcom 2, she's another returning character. I hope that Hsein Ko doesn't make it.
I don't really care about her much. Akuma? Yeah.. he's probably in it. he's one of the most overrated Villains of that series. x.x
I'm not sure if there really is a smurfette principal like you say. I think recent popularity has a lot to do with some of who we're getting. Like Jill from the hugely profitable RE5 or She-Hulk from that Fall of the Hulks thing or whatever it is has going on. For the record I really like She-Hulk so I';m happy with her inclusion.
Akuma is definitely in. His in game model was leaked in a screenshot. I linked to it in a reply to Stonergriffon.
'Course that's typical of YouTube tards.
I just want a Megaman at this point. Don't care which.
Indeed, hail to the blue bomber baby!
They could have picked a new female character that isn't a carbon copy of a male character, who has her own signature fighting style ... but then they'd have to program a whole new person and put some thought into it and THAT'S HARD.
Also, we don't know for sure which Megaman they'd pick if he was included. I was expressing my desperation in wanting him. I wasn't being literal. And who care is past Megaman's weren't that good? Like I said when tearing into Sentinel, past tier status is the absolute dumbest thing to factor in when making a roster for a game like this.